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Message 43 of 286 (853446)
05-27-2019 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Faith
05-27-2019 11:56 AM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
The idea of bodily sovereignty or autonomy, or having no obligation to be a host to "another," meaning a developing baby, is really really weird.

if you don't have control over your body what prevents the government from mandating you have an abortion? or forcing you to donate an organ?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 47 of 286 (853470)
05-27-2019 7:45 PM
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05-27-2019 7:10 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
I guess if I don't like my liver I could ask to have it cut out of me

right you could ask that (you'd have to find a doctor willing) because it's your body, you have sovereignty over your body.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 78 of 286 (853594)
05-29-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Faith
05-29-2019 11:31 AM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
Yes, you absurdly and immorally put personal liberty above the llfe of another human being.

so you think the government should be able to force you to donate an organ to someone.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 83 of 286 (853605)
05-29-2019 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Faith
05-29-2019 11:59 AM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
There are lots of organ donors,

but not enough, there are always waiting lists. So under your thinking the government should be able to just grab people off the street and start pulling out organs. After all you believe that personal liberty should be overridden to preserve life.

The baby is growing inside the woman already, she isn't forced to put it there

not all pregnancies are by choice.

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 86 of 286 (853610)
05-29-2019 12:20 PM
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05-29-2019 12:18 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
If you don't give your kidney to save someone it's the same as killing an unborn baby

if that someone can't live without a kidney, yes, after all a life is a life according to you.

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DrJones*
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Message 96 of 286 (853677)
05-30-2019 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by Faith
05-30-2019 5:44 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
If you mean to be using "liberty" in the sense used by the American founders you are abusing the word.

and their view of liberty didn't include granting it to slaves, so fuck them.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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DrJones*
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Message 99 of 286 (853683)
05-30-2019 6:30 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Faith
05-30-2019 6:25 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
in the end = after a civil war

Gosh you must think you are better than Jefferson or Washington

I've never owned slaves so I think I'm ahead of them in a category or two.

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


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DrJones*
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Message 102 of 286 (853692)
05-30-2019 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by Faith
05-30-2019 6:32 PM


Re: No obligation to let others use your body.
You're just an arrogant jrk.

perhaps, but I've never owned slaves.

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