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Phat
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Message 16 of 74 (882807)
10-17-2020 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by goldenlightArchangel
10-17-2020 3:55 AM


Re: The truth is only one
Personally I think you yourself are oppressed by evil spirits. The rest of the Forum would likely think that both of us are mentally ill! Its all about perspective.

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Message 17 of 74 (882808)
10-17-2020 10:48 AM
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10-17-2020 10:03 AM


Re: The truth is only one
I don't think goldwenlightArchangel is mentally ill and I think his statement. "Mercy endures forever and ever, and it means Alta Gyahaveh never said everybody died; to the contrary, those who forgive will be forgiven, and everything will be pardoned except when they choose to be slaves serving unto a god, which is a transgression foretold in the first commandment, a deadly sin, not something one commits externally but against the light of their own spirit when they choose to stay in the dark through their religious idolatry", is particularly enlightening.

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Message 18 of 74 (882809)
10-17-2020 11:44 AM
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10-17-2020 10:48 AM


Re: The truth is only one
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People should leave the mythology behind, and learn to think for themselves. Your intellect is a better instrument of spiritual growth than any religious teachings.

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Message 19 of 74 (882813)
10-17-2020 7:12 PM
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Re: The truth is only one
I'm not sure he'll pick up on your meaning. If I'm not misreading you myself.

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Message 20 of 74 (882817)
10-17-2020 11:16 PM
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Re: The truth is only one
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I consider you all friends of mine, regardless of belief, gender or preferences in the debates

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Message 21 of 74 (882819)
10-18-2020 3:39 AM
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10-17-2020 11:44 AM


Re: The truth is only one
See my reply to Phat at Message 77.

The only viable path to spiritual growth is by thinking through and working through the questions, not by blindly and unthinkingly accepting the answers of religious teachings.

To question is the Answer.


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Message 22 of 74 (882846)
10-21-2020 12:57 AM


that which was predicted to be standing where it ought not
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Quotation "... redemption, the most demonic doctrine of All-time, is backed up by two other lies saying that sinners belong to the devil and there is no mercy without punishment or someone paying the price for them, with blood and sacrificial death. But You know the truth is one: nobody belongs to the devil, and I will have mercy and compassion on whom I will have mercy and compassion; without the need of punishment or someone paying the price for you."

Quotation: . . The deal of redemption or the offer of a price already paid has proven to be a belief that causes desolation, which was predicted to be standing where it ought not, in the holy place named the holy bible. That is why Alta Gyahaveh said that whoever wants to save his life shall lose it; by accepting or consenting to payment with blood or sacrificial death, the spirits chain themselves to the devil; and every gloomy heart becomes scary darker still, with no light shining through.

That is how the spirits do not come to the light: when taking advantage of a curse they have never known, saying: 'someone made himself a curse for us'; when choosing what belongs in the eternal dark and staying away from the light of My love's candle.

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Message 23 of 74 (883188)
11-13-2020 11:38 AM


The Real Origin of all Evil
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Quotation: Mercy endures forever and ever, and it means Alta Gyahaveh never said everybody died; to the contrary, those who forgive will be forgiven, and everything will be pardoned except when they choose to be slaves serving unto a god, which is a transgression foretold in the first commandment, a deadly sin, not something one commits externally but against the light of their own spirit when they choose to stay in the dark through their religious idolatry.

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The deal of redemption or the offer of a price already paid has proven to be a belief that causes desolation, which was predicted to be standing where it ought not, in the holy place named the holy bible. That is why Alta Gyahaveh said that whoever wants to save his life shall lose it. By accepting or consenting to payment with blood or sacrificial death, the spirits chain themselves to the devil; and every gloomy heart becomes scary darker still, with no light shining through.

When spirits do not come to the light, when choosing the advantage taken of a curse they have never known, saying: 'someone paid the price being made a curse for us'; then they are choosing a transference of their debts; something that Alta Gyahaveh, the highest, never said that should be done. And for choosing what belongs in the eternal dark they are choosing to stay away from the light of My love's candle.

That is why the real origin of all evil is that which comes out of him, in other words, that which one does to himself; to his spirit; it is called religious idolatry; when choosing to serve unto a god or a financial profit from the advantage taken of a curse they have never known.

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Quoted from Gyeruzsalaym (unpublished archives),

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Established in the World for the first time in the IV century through the CODEX VATICANUS, published in Greek by Eusebius *a variation of Beulzebu (Legion), the agreement of redemption has a thousand truths that came out of Legion's mouth. But the truth is only one and the World will be given to know: “TO ACCEPT OR CONSENTING TO PAYMENT WITH BLOOD OR SACRIFICIAL DEATH IS DEMONIC”.

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Quotation: . . That twelve words clause exposes the existence of the dark world as well as the access to it in the Codex Vaticano, through the bind we named redemtione . . .

(from the Latin root retentione, the name of the fee charged by the Roman legion for a detainee; a retention fee was paid for deliverance from the detention and as a pay-to-stay imprisonment.)

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Our justice is glittering light over them all; it’s about people having the right to make the reality they choose. The World shall know it never was about judging neither condemning nor testing, despite Legion having written otherwise in the Codex Vaticano. There never was testing which the World would be tested with, because Alta Gyahaveh, the highest, doesn’t need and never needed to test anyone; She simply knows what the truth is.

(Quotation: . . How easy it is for people to prove the existence of the dark side in the bible. It was allowed by Alta Gyahaveh, the highest, who permitted even the existence of the devil clearly present in the most demonic doctrine ever, which speaks three guidelines heading for the devil’s direction: (1.) people cannot be simply forgiven or saved without redemption, a price paid for you; (2.) sinners belong to the devil; and therefore, (3.) there is no mercy without punishment or transference of the debt by the acceptance that a price was paid for you which consents to payment with blood and sacrificial death . . )

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You know the truth is one, the inscription: I WILL HAVE MERCY AND COMPASSION ON WHOMEVER I WILL HAVE MERCY AND COMPASSION, without the need for punishment, transference of debt, or someone paying the price for people to whoever it is.

It is not the devil they should fear; It is not the devil they should make peace to but the light of My love’s candle, as it is said in Isayah: “None escapes from My hands.” Whether sinners or not, people do not belong to the devil but to Alta Gyahaveh, the highest, to whom the World belongs.

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Stile
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Message 24 of 74 (883190)
11-13-2020 2:22 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by dwise1
10-18-2020 3:39 AM


Re: The truth is only one
dwise1 writes:

The only viable path to spiritual growth is by thinking through and working through the questions, not by blindly and unthinkingly accepting the answers of religious teachings.

To question is the Answer.

I don't agree.

That is, in some sort of "absolutely everybody" sense.

Spiritual growth is a subjective concept.
Therefore, there will be different answers for almost everyone.

Many of those answers will be able to fit in the "thinking through and working through the questions..." pool.
In which case - you'd be right.

Of course, simply by nature of being a subjective concept, many answers will not fit in that pool.
In which case - you're wrong.

Spiritual growth (a part of "mental health") is a personal matter. Such answers will necessarily need to be calibrated to the individual.


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Message 25 of 74 (883195)
11-13-2020 9:17 PM


Where's my invitation?
Hey, why wasn't I invited to the pot party you guys all went to?

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Message 26 of 74 (883196)
11-14-2020 1:21 AM
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Re: Where's my invitation?
Sorry, man. I got wasted and forgot to send out the memo.

It's really good stuff tho. Real lose-site-of-reality kinda stuff.

Yes, they've fallen into extreme delusion. Great entertainment.


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goldenlightArchangel
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Message 27 of 74 (883198)
11-14-2020 1:04 PM
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11-13-2020 2:22 PM


Re: The truth is only one
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doctor wise1 is saying one must question (to ascertain and verify) rather than accept what is shoved down one's throat by the doctorates and theologians of the religions.

Spiritual growth requires you to choose between truth and lies. And you say, how come that you know what the truth is since everybody would show up with a different answer.

But if you know that the truth is one then you will ask a question whose correct answer is Yes or No, based on evidence that must be provided.

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Sample of evidence • (Established in the World for the first time in the IV century through the CODEX VATICANUS, published in Greek by Eusebius *a variation of Beulzebu (Legion), the agreement of redemption defines everyone as sinners and pertaining to the devil.)

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Phat
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Message 28 of 74 (883204)
11-15-2020 10:41 AM
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11-14-2020 1:04 PM


One Truth..Many Beliefs
Allow me to add my 2 cents....

doctor wise1 is saying one must question (to ascertain and verify) rather than accept what is shoved down one's throat by the doctorates and theologians of the religions.
Actually, the good Doctor is David. We have a Doctor Adequate, who is usually more than adequate. I believe he accepts Medicare. And for the record...yes. I agree that we should always question and test what we believe. Beliefs are relative. Truth isn't.
Spiritual growth requires you to choose between truth and lies.
I fully agree. And one must be awarte of false teachers that present lies as truth and twist the truth to their own (or their demons) agenda.
But if you know that the truth is one then you will ask a question whose correct answer is Yes or No, based on evidence that must be provided.
The truth is One in the sense that we are talking Trinitarian Monotheism rather than Monism or Dualism, but there really is only one God. The adversary was allowed to exist only due to Gods will and purpose, but there is no Yin vs Yang apart from in our minds. Both is not an answer either. Nor is relative truth. If i burst anyone's bubble, my apologies.

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“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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Message 29 of 74 (883206)
11-15-2020 11:43 AM
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11-15-2020 10:41 AM


Real justice does not declare anyone righteous for his\her belief
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Good job!

That the real reason why the adversary was allowed to exist is a matter of justice (our right to choice and free will) is evident otherwise there would not be an election.

Given the right to choice and free will it was allowed by Alta (Aleph Tav), the highest, that access to the dark world should exist for anyone who chooses what is evil, through the most demonic doctrine, which speaks “everyone belongs to the devil” pessimistic valuations that place you lower than the light, and very bad sayings heading for the perdition. It starts saying whoever commits sin is of the devil and then it is deeming everyone as sinners of the kind pertaining to the devil.

It shows up saying that a price had been paid for you, and then it says the price was paid because sinners belong to the devil and must be bought back from him, which is not different from blackmailing saying “you belong to the devil unless you accept or consent to a payment of price with blood and sacrificial death" according to the Codex Vaticano. It prescribes rites that say “Do you renounce Satan” as if the ritual was so miserable that it CANNOT BLESS, INCLUDE OR LOVE thy enemy.

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Message 30 of 74 (883209)
11-15-2020 12:59 PM
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11-15-2020 11:43 AM


Re: Real justice does not declare anyone righteous for his\her belief
Who is Alta? I googled it to no avail. Im assuming we are talking about the same God.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killosophy


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