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Message 31 of 953 (854115)
06-04-2019 6:55 PM
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06-04-2019 6:50 PM


No this is not about racism
...calls for restricting immigration always came with fears about American culture becoming polluted by foreign traditions, not to mention the hysteria that foreigners will be bringinging diseases and crime.

Yeah and it's really weird that you don't know the difference between such fears about losing our culture, and about disease and crime, and racism.

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Message 37 of 953 (854124)
06-04-2019 9:52 PM
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06-04-2019 7:36 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
You can't enrich our culture by turning it into something else, something built on an alien philosophy of ****, something that creates poverty that supplants American prosperity. We need people who have SOME education, SOME means of succeeding in **** so they aren't completely dependent on us, and a definite appreciation of America, willing to learn about American history and culture, interested in learning a lot about it and living by it. Of course that means Americans, who know so little about it as it is, need to learn it first. A massive educational undoing of the Marxist influences of the last few decades is no doubt where we need to start. People applying for citizenship used to be required to learn the language and some American culture, our founding documents at least.

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Message 39 of 953 (854127)
06-04-2019 10:16 PM


It's really not race
My brother just had a family from India staying with him and his wife for the last two weeks. The father, a Christian preacher in India, had visited a few times before, and his wife came once. This time he brought her and their two daughters aged eleven and thirteen. They do speak some English but tend to speak to each other in their own language, Telagu -- that's how it sounds, not sure I spelled it OK. I met the pastor through a friend of mine a few years ago and sent them some money when I could afford it, until I stopped working and had to get government help. I introduced him to my brother who is financially better able to do something for them as well as having a house big enough for them to stay -- an ordinary three bedroom house but a house that big in India would house fifteen families they told us). He took them to church and many of the church members took up their cause -- basically extreme poverty of a sort we can hardly imagine. They run a school and an orphanage for Dalit children in India as well as a church. So they got quite a few donations here and some of the people have pledged to continue it over time.

They are from the "untouchable" class in India, or Dalit, although the abuse has let up some in recent years. Being Christians, however, they are persecuted by the Hindus, personally so far escaping that fate although he's sent us photos of Christians beaten up and llyng in the street, some dead.

He wants his daughters to come and **** here, and asked my brother if they could llve with them and go to Middle School here. It would be great if that could work out but as my brother said his health isn't so great and it would be years to see them through high school. We are praying about how to work it out.

Yes their being Christians makes them desirable immigrants from my point of view, but their poverty and lack of education really makes it impossible or at least very difficult. Their race is not relevant. The pastor is as black as Krishna, his wife is much lighter and the daughters got her coloring, but they are still what would be called brown. They are very pretty and very sweet. If the girls at least could get an education they could later bring their parents here. Lots to work out.

There are 1.3 billion people in India, most of them living in great poverty. If they decided to move here there would be no more USA. But that's what's happening on our southern border as it is.

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Message 43 of 953 (854152)
06-05-2019 9:36 AM
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06-04-2019 10:46 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
So you agree that it's about culture, not race.

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Message 45 of 953 (854163)
06-05-2019 11:48 AM
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06-05-2019 11:41 AM


Re: No this is not about racism
How can I be hiding and denying something I never even heard of before?

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Message 47 of 953 (854166)
06-05-2019 11:52 AM
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06-05-2019 11:49 AM


Re: No this is not about racism
Call people racists who have said nothing to justify the term, and then change the definition to make it fit when they point out a discrepancy. I think this is called "railroading" or something llke that? Same as what the Trump-despisers are doing to Trump, accusing him of stuff that never entered his mind and imposing your own definitions on everything he says until you're convinced you're right though it's nothing but a frame-up.

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Message 49 of 953 (854169)
06-05-2019 11:58 AM
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06-05-2019 11:55 AM


Re: No this is not about racism
See previous post. This is the Twilight Zone for sure, nothing I've said justifies your accusations and your twisted logic is what is transparent: gotta make me guilty of something somehow or other..

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Message 51 of 953 (854172)
06-05-2019 12:01 PM
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06-05-2019 11:58 AM


Re: No this is not about racism
Gosh, more twisted cleverness in the service of manufacturing guilt.

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Message 61 of 953 (854201)
06-05-2019 4:06 PM
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06-05-2019 3:26 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
American culture is not the same, true, but that's because it's been degenerating since the sixties.

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Message 64 of 953 (854204)
06-05-2019 4:13 PM
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06-05-2019 4:10 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Moving toward third world status is more llke it.

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Message 68 of 953 (854221)
06-05-2019 6:41 PM
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06-05-2019 6:10 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
I didn't say anything about immigrants. The degeneration I had in mind is the product of the Marxist ideology that started coming on strong in the sixties and escalated through the last few decades as the sixties radicals became university professors and indoctrinated the following generations.

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Message 70 of 953 (854224)
06-05-2019 7:04 PM
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06-05-2019 6:55 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
I'm well aware of your plans already. I know very well how you plan to bring down the nation to third world status. If God doesn't have mercy on us you may succeed.

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Message 72 of 953 (854226)
06-05-2019 7:29 PM
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06-05-2019 7:27 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Can't happen, your ideology, your methodology, preclude any such happy conclusion. Marxism leads to Venezuela, it's Christianity that made the prosperity of the West. You really don't get it.

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Message 82 of 953 (854294)
06-06-2019 5:50 PM
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06-06-2019 11:06 AM


Marxism
I'm more tuned into Cultural Marxism than economic Marxism but let's see how far I get with the latter: Marxism is basically the idea that the rich or upper classes oppress the poor or lower classes or working classes, and that capitalism serves this system of oppression, so that the lower classes have to be radicalized to **** the upper classes and overthrow them. That's how it got played out in Russia in 1917 and all the other Marxist countries too. Mao had all the educated people killed or imprisoned as members of this supposed oppressor class, not just the rich people. The means of production also had to be removed from the hands of the rich classes and put in the hands of the poor classes.

So when Marxism takes hold, the richer classes, known in the olden days as "the bourgeoisie" or the people who buy and sell things, are done away with along with anyone else suspected of disliking the new policies, and the "workers" take over. In practice this always creates a new ruling class that oppresses and deprives ALL the people which is what is happening in Venezuela while the new rulers get rich and do nothing at all to help the oppressed population.

According to my sources, which you tell me are ***** to me, Venezuela used to be an extremely productive and prosperous nation, but when socialism/Marxism took over, the thugs took over, productivity stopped and the people are now starving to death. In Venezuela there is also the problem of the drug lords who hold power.

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Message 83 of 953 (854296)
06-06-2019 6:08 PM
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06-06-2019 5:50 PM


Re: Marxism contined
continued:
In reality it's not the proletariat or working class that gets power, or only a few of them do, and they become the new oppressive ruling class, but it's the government that has all the power. They take whatever they please from whomever they please, they pretty much completely end all productivity, taking farms away and giving them to people who don't know how to run them and have no motivation to be part of a collective ownership. ALL "dissenters" are executed or sent to some form of "gulag" and the people starve because what really creates a working economy in any nation has been destroyed. The new upper class gets extremely rich, and those who go along with it.

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