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Message 7 of 254 (854078)
06-04-2019 4:15 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Sarah Bellum
06-04-2019 4:02 PM


Since nobody is proposing open borders, opposing open borders is pointless.
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Message 10 of 254 (854082)
06-04-2019 4:24 PM
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06-04-2019 4:16 PM


Re: Take away political preferences, and many (on both sides) are indeed racist.
That sort of racism is illegal and should be quashed, if it is as your source claims. But that's not evidence that anyone wants open borders; quite the opposite.

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Message 13 of 254 (854086)
06-04-2019 4:29 PM
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06-04-2019 4:20 PM


What makes you think that? Sanctuary cities are legal and (many think) moral. Maybe illegal immigrants are encouraged by their existence. I have not seen any evidence people in sanctuary cities want open borders.
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Message 20 of 254 (854101)
06-04-2019 5:19 PM
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06-04-2019 4:33 PM


Nevertheless, they do seem a bit lax in their attitudes towards the lines on the map, no?

No.

Got any evidence to the contrary?


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Message 23 of 254 (854104)
06-04-2019 5:25 PM
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06-04-2019 5:19 PM


Sanctuary cities do not oppose immigration law. Here's a short primer.

  • Federal agencies are responsible for enforcing Federal laws.
  • State agencies are responsible for enforcing State laws.
  • Local agencies are responsible for enforcing State and local laws.
  • Immigration laws are all Federal laws.

Got any evidence of anybody advocating open borders?
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Message 25 of 254 (854107)
06-04-2019 5:29 PM
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06-04-2019 5:25 PM


Or Alabama.

All of which has nothing to do with our national borders. Got any evidence of anyone advocating open borders?


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Message 26 of 254 (854108)
06-04-2019 5:32 PM
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06-04-2019 5:26 PM


I replied to that (duplicate) message in Message 23.
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Message 29 of 254 (854112)
06-04-2019 6:23 PM
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06-04-2019 5:33 PM


You brought up culture, not me.

Taq brought up culture.

I didn't.


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Message 34 of 254 (854118)
06-04-2019 7:32 PM
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06-04-2019 6:50 PM


I think that in this modern world we need control over our borders. Control that is cost-effective and efficacious. I don't know what that is but Trump's wall is neither.
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Message 35 of 254 (854119)
06-04-2019 7:36 PM
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06-04-2019 6:55 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
I see it as enriching our culture. I suspect you mean preserving a white majority.
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Message 41 of 254 (854150)
06-05-2019 9:12 AM
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06-04-2019 9:52 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
The only constant is change. You look back, we look forward. Whatever happens our culture will be more broadly based.
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Message 42 of 254 (854151)
06-05-2019 9:14 AM
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06-04-2019 9:56 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Some white Anglo-Saxon protestants. No liberals.
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Message 62 of 254 (854202)
06-05-2019 4:10 PM
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06-05-2019 4:06 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
Change. You can't go back to the 1950s. Adapt or be left behind as we move forward.
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Message 76 of 254 (854245)
06-06-2019 9:18 AM
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06-05-2019 9:36 PM


Re: No this is not about racism
She has no idea what those labels mean. They're just incantations to ward off what scares her.
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Message 78 of 254 (854247)
06-06-2019 9:25 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by LamarkNewAge
06-06-2019 1:08 AM


Re: Democrats and Republicans.
I saw some wise words recently.

Republicans oppose Democrats because of what Republicans say Democrats do.

Democrats oppose Republicans because of what Republicans do.

It's true.


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