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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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You are a troll. Being treated like shit on an online forum that you willing go to is not in any sense of the word censorship or fascism. You are an idiot.
And I'll just mention again that Antifa BEATS UP PEOPLE FOR OPINIONS THEY DISLIKE.
Nazi's and the alt-right kill people they dislike. So go fuck yourself.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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FYI. Marxists cannot be fascists. It doesn't work that way. The stupidity burns. How many times has this simple concept been explained to you.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Hitler did not have gulags and the christians supported him.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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So christians that were not part of any church opposed him? Those that supported him were not real christians? Evidence please.
Gulags and concentration camps are not the same thing. If you mean concentration camps, say concentration camp. Using correct words will make your trolling look less foolish. But only a little.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Give us names of the good Christians that opposed him. I think it is a huge stretch to say that the Popes Pius XI and Pius XII supported Hitler. Such a stretch that it is untrue. Please show me what you mean that the Popes supported Hitler. You do realize that two different men were Pope while Hitler was in power don't you.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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So you got nothing about the Pope.
What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. And you have one Christian that stood up to little adolph. Go you. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Evidence please. Though the Popes were quite remiss in their duties and should be rightly vilified for their lack of action, to call them Hitler supporters requires evidence. Present evidence and I will consider it. Without evidence I will not consider the assertion.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Wikipedia has a pretty good overview of the situation.
Catholic Church and Nazi Germany - Wikipedia The idea that the Pope supported Hitler comes a lot from the book "Hitler's Pope" by John Cornwell. Hitler's Pope - Wikipedia This book was very highly criticized as not being very well researched and reaching spurious conclusions. The author himself seems to have pulled back from what he presented in the book.
quote: quote: This whole thing is just Faith's anti-Catholicism.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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The Popes definitely were did the bare minimum. There is a lot to criticize them over. Their actions helped the rise of Hitler and Nazism. But they were in no way supporters of Hitler. Their inaction helped Hitler, but they were not supporters.
I am not a supporter of the Catholic church or the Popes. I am a firm believer in criticizing institutions and people for the actions they do, but not for things they did not do. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
No please supply it.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Please stay on topic.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
What is Phayer's evudence?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Post the link to the page in the book. I do not see any footnotes that link to a page in the book. The book does not seem to be available online.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
The pages referenced in the footnotes are not available in this preview. You made this statement.
The second goes to a page in a book, and if you scroll down a few paragraphs you'll find a reference to a document in the Argentine archives reporting that the Pope was behind the Ratlines. You should be able to just post the link. You claim to have linked to this info from the book. Why can you not provide it?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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This is not the Phayer book. This is someone debunking him. Not much of a smoking gun. I have no idea why you would think this would support your contention. The writer makes it clear that the evidence "supposedly" exists and it "supposedly" was written in the name of Pius XII. Until that letter can be verified there is no evidence directly linking the Pope to the ratlines.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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