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Faith 
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Message 331 of 953 (858503)
07-21-2019 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 316 by Sarah Bellum
07-20-2019 10:13 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Well they AREN'T real Christians, there are a lot of counterfeits and the devil just loves to pretend to be a Christian. Not that Christians aren't sinners, but individually -- we aren't organized institutional sinners. Except for the papal system of course, with their Inquisition which is still on the books and will come after you as well as me if they get their power back, THEY are organized institutional murderers, as is Islam. Not individual Catholics, not individual Muslims, the institutions, the ideologies.
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JonF
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Message 332 of 953 (858506)
07-21-2019 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 331 by Faith
07-21-2019 7:33 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
When the Apocalypse comes Faith will sit with Jesus and tell him what to do.

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AZPaul3
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Message 333 of 953 (858508)
07-21-2019 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 332 by JonF
07-21-2019 9:08 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
And if he doesn't do exactly as she says she'll tell his dad that junior is not being a real christian, again.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Faith 
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Message 334 of 953 (858510)
07-21-2019 9:35 AM
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07-21-2019 9:08 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
I won't need to tell Him anything, I get all my stuff from Him.
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Sarah Bellum
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Message 335 of 953 (858511)
07-21-2019 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 331 by Faith
07-21-2019 7:33 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
The distinction C. S. Lewis made was between people who profess to be Christians and people who don't. People who profess to be Christians and don't follow the Christian teaching (whatever that is), Lewis chose to call "bad Christians" rather than "non-Christians".

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JonF
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Message 336 of 953 (858513)
07-21-2019 10:02 AM
Reply to: Message 334 by Faith
07-21-2019 9:35 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Yeah, he preaches hate for anyone not like you.

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Chiroptera
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Message 337 of 953 (858523)
07-21-2019 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by Sarah Bellum
07-21-2019 9:59 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
People who profess to be Christians and don't follow the Christian teaching (whatever that is)....
"Whatever that is" is whatever you want it to be.
One of the advantages of Protestant evangelicalism is that by "being moved by the Holy Spirit" Christian teaching becomes whatever you already believe.
One of the advantages of "Biblical literalism" is that big mess of contradictions can be used to support whatever you already believe.
'Course Lewis was Catholic which supposedly does have an unambiguous body of defined teachings, but I notice Catholics are no less likely to align their "Christian teachings" with their beliefs than Protestants are.

It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 338 of 953 (858526)
07-21-2019 12:52 PM
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07-21-2019 12:12 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Oh, sure, there's some debate as to what is "Christian" and what is not "Christian" (Are Mormon's Christians? Nestorians?). But that's around the edges. The point Lewis was making is that if a supposed Christian who does nasty things (Like AOC insinuating that Nancy Pelosi is racist and sexist) is not a non-Christian, just a bad Christian.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 339 of 953 (858527)
07-21-2019 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 262 by PaulK
07-19-2019 8:37 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Oh look the usual bigotry. Well, it’s certainly on topic.
Even the Left of the Democratic Party are hardly Communists. They are not even hard Left by European standards.
That may or may not be the case in Europe, but The Squad is far left even to the Democratic Party and sowing division within the party wherever they go. They can't stop making pot shots against Nancy Pelosi, a politician long considered so far to the left its fallen off the page. Its not left enough... its like that time Bernie Sanders was hijacked and shouted down to unproductively make a point that he already supported. Its an oppression olympics... the objective is to one-up someone else about the horrors of _____ <----
Also, I hardly think that a Muslim so liberal that she sometimes calls Allah She is the sort of fundamentalist that attacked the U.S. In fact those Muslims aren’t likely to approve of female politicians at all.
And she speaks to an era where liberal indoctrination on college campuses was inevitably going to lead.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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PaulK
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Message 340 of 953 (858532)
07-21-2019 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Hyroglyphx
07-21-2019 12:57 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
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That may or may not be the case in Europe, but The Squad is far left even to the Democratic Party and sowing division within the party wherever they go. They can't stop making pot shots against Nancy Pelosi, a politician long considered so far to the left its fallen off the page
Obviously she isn’t. I’ve never seen anything that I’d call far Left associated with her. Indeed, she seems to be associated with the establishment Democrats who are centre-Right.
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And she speaks to an era where liberal indoctrination on college campuses was inevitably going to lead.
So which is it? Is she so horribly liberal that she’d be on Al Quaida’s death list or should she be tarred with 9/11? It doesn’t make sense to say both.

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ringo
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Message 341 of 953 (858539)
07-21-2019 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by Faith
07-21-2019 9:35 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Faith writes:
I get all my stuff from Him.
No you don't. You get all your stuff from tradition.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Chiroptera
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Message 342 of 953 (858540)
07-21-2019 2:53 PM
Reply to: Message 339 by Hyroglyphx
07-21-2019 12:57 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
...Nancy Pelosi, a politician long considered so far to the left its fallen off the page. Its not left enough....
Hello, Hyro.
Sure; the rightwing rage machine has painted Pelosi as some kind of left wing extremist for so long that I'm sure many do consider her to be too far to the left.
What about you? What has she actually done that is "off the page"? Surely pushing through Obamacare can't be considered all that far left?
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It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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Faith 
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Message 343 of 953 (858552)
07-21-2019 8:15 PM
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07-21-2019 2:45 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Tradition gets it from Him. My tradition anyway.

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Faith 
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Message 344 of 953 (858553)
07-21-2019 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 337 by Chiroptera
07-21-2019 12:12 PM


Re: Almost a caricature
Lewis was Anglican, Church of England, not Catholic. Not that there's a LOT of difference I would agree.

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Faith 
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Message 345 of 953 (858554)
07-21-2019 8:17 PM
Reply to: Message 336 by JonF
07-21-2019 10:02 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
That's not true.

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