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dwise1 Member Posts: 5950 Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Is Trump not in office? And didn't the GOP have control of both houses of Congress for the first two years? Basically, except for the very beginning before he had completely subverted them, they were ready and eager to rubber-stamp anything that Trump wanted. And the oversight and judicial committees were controlled by the GOP, so they completely failed to perform their constitutional duties and provided absolutely no oversight of the Executive. Just exactly how is that supposed to "stolen" the first two years from Trump? If anything, the only "political subterfuges" were committed by the GOP against the country. The only time that I know of that the GOP-controlled Congress went against Trump was in the very beginning, before he had subverted them. One of the very first things that Trump did was to remove all sanctions against Russia, basically his first big thank-you gift to Putin. Congress blocked that move and did so by such a big margin that it was obviously even to Trump that they would easily override a veto of that bill. So Trump had to sign the bill into law, grumbling mightily as he did so. So then exactly how is his first term supposed to have "been stolen from him by political subterfuges unprecedented in history"? Especially compared to how Congress had worked so hard against every single thing that Obama had tried to do, including any kind of infrastructure bills that should have broad bipartisan support? Compared to the unprecedented political subterfuges that Obama had to suffer, Trump's had a leisurely stroll in the park.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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It is not checks and balances, it is pure political obstructionism. But that's exactly what "checks and balances" are: institutions and procedures that obstruct the actions of government parties when they get out of line. And Trump's illegal actions should be obstructed. And Trump's morally bankrupt policies should be obstructed. And Trump's basic ignorance and incompetence should be called out for what it is.Hard as it is to fathom, Mr President, just because you’re the leader of the free world doesn’t entitle you to a free pass. Unfortunately, just a free press. -- Neil Cavuto
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Newsflaah:Faith refuses to condemn killing sick kids! IOIYAR.
You're right, at least some of them are legal.
quote: Mariela Sanchez from Guatemala is the mother of one of the children..
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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It's a moderately widely held view among moronis americanus. The ones who think the entire government must be dedicated to only one task at a time.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You continue to be very good at rationalizing the unconscionable. The checks and balances are built into our institutions. All the Left is doing is political obstructionism. It's incessant, has given not one moment of grace to the man, and it's all lies: Trump does NOT deserve it. He has not committed any illegal actions, that's all fake news, completely made up. A long investigation tried to prove illegal actions and proved absolutely not even one. And the "morally bankrupt policies" are nothing but Leftist political lies. You don't like his policies, that's all. They are perfectly reasonable conservative policies for the most part and the Left hates them for that reason only and won't even try to be reasonable about it or seek discussion or compromise, it's all stonewalling and obstruction. Everything you've said is nothing but political bias, and that is NOT checks and balances, that's arrogant Leftism and nothing else.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Being in office while every moment his political enemies are telling lies about him in the media and calling his every move illegitimate when it's not and threatening to impeach him or have him jailed, supporting an investigation based on nothing but lies only to harass him and impede his work, refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions. THAT is how his term has been stolen from him.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Being in office while every moment his political enemies are telling lies about him in the media
like the lies about his place of birth and secret religion?
refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions.
they're under no obligation to cooperate with him, they don't work for him. Where were your cries for cooperation when Obama was president?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions.
List two examples. Include the evidence that liberals "held the same opinions". Remember that the zero-humanity policy isn't a carryover from Obama, as I pointed out a few days ago. If you respond at all, I predict it will be an easily debunked lie. Hey, howzabout killing them kids? They're not citizens, anything goes, right?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Obama was not treated at all as Trump is treated. He was criticized in the particular ways you brought up but I believe they are true of him. He went to a "Christian" church whose pastor did nothing but hate America, that's hardly a Christian church; and he bowed to Muslim leaders and obviously favored them, even apologized for America. Obama was a traitor in my opinion. Oh and his own Kenyan grandmother said she saw him in the hospital there when he was born. All the rationalizations of that one are laughable.
But he was not hounded and harassed as Trump is from one moment to the next, the press was on his side instead of incessantly lying about him, insinuating all sorts of illegalities he did not commit, inventing an investigation into phony misdeeds and so on and so forth. Comparing Trump's situation to Obama's is way out of proportion, there is no moral equivalence whatever. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Congress many times voted for a wall on the border; those who now object to it and do everything they can to undermine the effort voted for it.
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It appears that they are not backtracking very far.
quote: Translation: we're going to wait until the hullabaloo dies down and off 'em on the down low. And Faith will be cheering them on.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Do you guys never stop with the lying accusations?
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JonF Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Congress many times voted for a wall on the border; those who now object to it voted for it.
We've done this lie recently. Have you no memory? As predicted, long debunked and easily disproved. PolitiFact | Did Democrats reverse border wall position after Donald Trump was elected?
quote:So what the Democrats voted for was much much smaller in size and extent, and has been in place for years. If it was the same thing why would Trump denigrate it and want to replace it.
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yet so far there is no evidence of anyone telling lies except il Donald.
And it has been Congress and the Courts and all the folk that quit working for him because he is simply a boor.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Even I've given up on it because it's so aggressively denied who wants to keep getting hit over the head about it. But his Kenyan grandmother clearly said she saw him when he was born there. All the rest is forgeries and deceptions.
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