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Message 931 of 953 (865414)
10-24-2019 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 912 by PaulK
09-21-2019 4:34 AM


PaulK writes:

As for faint letters, there are odd singletons like the “a” in “African” and the “i” in “University” - but there are enough other examples to show that there is no consistency. The top bar of the “E” in the first “HUSSEIN” is weak, but not in the second, or in “East”. Again, the forgery hypothesis fails.

To compound the issue.. how many times has this piece of paper been scanned, printed and re-scanned?

The “a” in “African” and the “i” in “University” are in line with each other vertically. If you take a step back, you can kinda see a larger vertical "numbing" of the print in line with these two letters. As if the document scanning/reprinting at one time or another was done on a not-quite-perfect printer or scanner. This is not surprising, as even modern printers/scanners still have these issues, depending on their age and cost/quality of the unit. For older ones - such a "numbing" is almost to be expected here or there.


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Message 932 of 953 (866254)
11-08-2019 11:08 AM


More hate and racism from Conservatives
This guy is not an aberration. This is the actual mindset of the GOP and it's followers. The GOP and wingnuts will distance themselves from these people only because they were indiscrete.

quote:
Leaked Signal messages from an online chat network around six-term Washington state Republican representative Matt Shea show new evidence of violent fantasies, surveillance of perceived adversaries, conspiracy thinking, Islamophobia, and support for white nationalists.
The messages from the chat group, exchanged between October 2017 and October 2018, show Shea’s network includes other serving, former and aspiring rightwing politicians from Idaho and Washington, alongside activists associated with militia groups, anti-environmental causes, and pro-gun activism.
They also show participants, including Shea, preparing for economic and societal collapse even as they campaign for the secession of eastern Washington from the remainder of the state.
The messages provide a rare insight into the inner workings – and paranoia – of the so-called patriot movement, whose members have participated in standoffs with the federal government in Nevada and Oregon, and whose far-right beliefs have been controversially promoted by Shea.

https://www.theguardian.com/...leaked-chats-washington-state

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 933 of 953 (866261)
11-08-2019 4:28 PM
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11-08-2019 11:08 AM


Re: More **** and racism from Conservatives
Sounds to me **** the "paranoia" is on your side, certainly there's plenty of ****** for the right getting expressed there. So the right does not want to be part of a nation run by the ****. The feeling seems to be mutual. The nation is about as polarized as it's possible to get. Instead of vilifying the right how about suggesting some ways we could **** our lives without being under the totalitarian thumb of the ****. Any suggestions?

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Message 934 of 953 (866266)
11-08-2019 5:17 PM
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11-08-2019 4:28 PM


Re: More hate and racism from Conservatives
So this guy should not be vilified? Do you support his aims?

Do you understand the terms "totalitarian" and "left".

Also, what is paranoia of the left? Examples please.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 935 of 953 (866289)
11-09-2019 10:48 AM
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11-08-2019 4:28 PM


Re: More hate and racism from Conservatives
Faith writes:

...certainly there's plenty of ****** for the right getting expressed there.


it's hating the sin, not the sinner.

"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...."
-- Rudyard Kipling

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Message 936 of 953 (866291)
11-09-2019 11:14 AM
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11-08-2019 5:17 PM


4th item Faith needs to back with actual evidence
I am going to call out Faith on every unevidenced assertion she makes. If she is going to be allowed to *****, I am going to continue to remind that she is making assertions and claims with no basis in fact or evidence to back them up. She claims mysterious sources, that she refuses to identify.
In this thread she now has made claims of left wing paranoia without any examples. She implies that she supports this domestic terrorist but skirts by the edge of actually showing outright support.
Let's see if she ever responds and gives evidence or examples for all of the items I have requested.
I won't hold my breath.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 937 of 953 (866305)
11-09-2019 5:01 PM
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11-09-2019 11:14 AM


Re: 4th item Faith needs to back with actual evidence
Hey when I can I'll produce the info you ask for but if not, I'm expecting all this to blow wide open pretty soon and then what I say won't matter anyway.

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Message 938 of 953 (866320)
11-09-2019 7:45 PM
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11-09-2019 5:01 PM


Re: 4th item Faith needs to back with actual evidence
Hey when I can I'll produce the info you ask for but if not, I'm expecting all this to blow wide open pretty soon and then what I say won't matter anyway.

Which of course will never ever happen, because you are a fucking lyyer!

Typical of Trumpists.

Typical of creationists.

Typical of "true Christians".


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Message 939 of 953 (866321)
11-09-2019 8:30 PM
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11-09-2019 7:45 PM


The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
I wish you guys would get something into your heads. Evidence of the truth of what I post is not always the most importqant thing. It is common here for just the Liberal ******* Democrat point of view to get expressed and what I am often trying to do is simply express the Right wing point of view in contrast. ******* it is quite secondary, I just want you to know that this other point of view exists, in fact it is what I am hearing all the time, and I assume you aren't aware of it so my aim is just to get it heard. All this clamor for me to prove it sounds important but sometimes it just fogs up the main point, which is nothing more than HEY THERE IS ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW HERE. Even if I come up with evidence you aren't going to accept it anyway, which just underscores the need to get across the simple fact that although you aren't going to agree with anything I say I do represent another point of view that is held by a lot of people out there.

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Message 940 of 953 (866323)
11-09-2019 8:58 PM
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11-09-2019 8:30 PM


Re: The demand for evidence is always to get back to reality which is the main point
And what you fail to get into your head is that there is such a thing as THE REAL WORLD where ACTUAL THINGS ACTUALLY HAPPEN! Where ALL THINGS HAVE ACTUAL WAYS IN WHICH THEY ACTUALLY WORK!

Your "ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW" is nothing but complete and utter made-up fantasy bullshit liies which have absolutely no bearing on reality.

Evidence exists for things rooted in reality. Evidence simply does not exist of your complete and utter made-up fantasy bullshit liies which have absolutely no bearing on reality.

That is why you are completely unable to provide any evidence at all of your complete and utter made-up fantasy bullshit liies which have absolutely no bearing on reality. And why you have to work so very hard to ignore our own evidence of things rooted in reality.

And our demands that you actually deal with evidence are attempts to get you back to reality and way from those pernicious destructive Trumpist fantasies.

HINT: You cannot change reality with a Sharpie.


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Message 941 of 953 (866324)
11-09-2019 9:01 PM
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11-09-2019 8:30 PM


The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
Faith writes:

Evidence of the truth of what I post is not always the most importqant thing.

Well Faith, without evidence to support what you post it is simply more trash to throw on the heap.

What is important is that you never have any evidence to support anything you post but those responding to you do have the evidence; do present the evidence; and that reality shows you are simply wrong.


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Faith
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Message 942 of 953 (866331)
11-09-2019 10:14 PM
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11-09-2019 9:01 PM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
First of all that 's not true, I often supply evidence.

Second, you are missing the point but that's all right, it's how the Lfft always misses the point such as missing why Trump won the Presidency. As I was saying, the point I am often making is that I represent a LOT of people out there, so when you throw my opinion in the trash you are throwing out important information. But go ahead, miss it again, that's fine with me.


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Message 943 of 953 (866333)
11-09-2019 11:10 PM
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11-09-2019 10:14 PM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
First of all that 's not true, I often supply evidence.

Uh, sorry, but when has that ever happened? You have often thrown your unsupported and fantasized baseless assertions at us frequently, but I cannot remember when you have ever supplied any actual evidence for anything.

What the hell are you talking about?

... why Trump won the Presidency.

The Electoral College. He got marginally enough votes in certain key states, mainly thanks to Russian interference in our elections.

Hillary got three million more votes in the popular election, so the actual majority of voters were with her. And that thin-skinned morron Trump still cannot get over that, nor that it was Russian interference that got him into office.

Trump's and your "point" does not represent the majority of Americans who had voted. But go ahead, miss it again, that's fine with us.


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Faith
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Message 944 of 953 (866334)
11-10-2019 3:09 AM
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11-09-2019 11:10 PM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
The Politico quote in Message 3099 is evidence, just for one instance that happens to come to mind. But that's only what comes to mind, there's been plenty of other evidence I've supplied on various subjects. Even what I just quoted from the book by Gregg Jarrett is evidence.

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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 945 of 953 (866335)
11-10-2019 3:25 AM
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11-09-2019 8:30 PM


Re: The demand for evidence is sometimes just a smoke screen to hide the main point
So the important thing is that you are a ***** liar who will smear anyone daring to report things you don’t want known.

Yes, we knew that. No need to belabour the point.


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