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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If she can open a browser, try this:
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 it's just the malwarebytes installer renamed.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
If time periods were marked by sedimentary layers we should see one forming today exactly over the geologial columns wherever they are. We don't.
We do. On the ocean floor. In river deltas. The Earth is covered by separate and neatly sorted layers, in some places distorted and broken by various obvious means. You obviously are speaking of a planet that exists only in your head.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It can take hours depending on how much is stored on the computer. If it's scanning it's working, but filenames should be appearing on the screen.
When it finishes have it quarantine everything it finds.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It can take hours depending on how much is stored on the computer. If it's scanning it's working, but filenames should be appearing on the screen.
When it finishes have it quarantine everything it finds.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It lists every file that it's looking at and the number of issues it's found. One virus can be several issues.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The thought is that both the greatest part of the surface of the earth AND the sea floor are not discreet sediments but mixed or jumbled sediments,
That's the though but not the reality. How do you know?
in which creatures do not usually manage to get themselves buried, let alone fossilized. Predators eat them and even their bones eventually decompose.
Creatures do not usually get buried, let alone fossilized. But a very few do.
and beneath the sea today is only slow and steady deposition of sediments.
And this is not building on the geological column [qs]Except the geological column is all built one on top of another in the same place,[/qsq]As are the sediments being deposited today. and these situations you are describing are formed hither and yon with no relation whatever to the geological column which is what has defined all the time periods, until now for some reason.
To you "hither and yon" means "in the same place on top of previous layers?
with no relation whatever to the geological column which is what has defined all the time periods, until now for some reason.
The sediments are being deposited on top of the geologic column. That's a relationship. Insofar as layers are associated with time periods, the sediments deposited today are associated with the Quaternaty period and the Holocene epoch.
Where is your impression of jumbled up coming from?
The actual situation of the sedimentary mixes and jumbles we see over most of the surface of the earth, and if you HAVE to include the sea bottom, there too. It's not at all obvious what you mean by "jumbled". It's defined as "mixed up in a confused or untidy way." That's definitely not true of the sea floor and river deltas, and I fail to see how it's applicable to the land.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
They are in the right place, directly at the top of the existing geologic column.
Some of them have tremendously extent, such as the floor of the Pacific Ocean, covering 30% of the Earth and 15 times the area of the United States. Why can't they become rock like the other layers? Oh, I know, there's no physical reason but you don't want them to.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
and beneath the sea today is only slow and steady deposition of sediments. .And this is not building on the geological column but you all think that's just fine even though the geological column is a very definite thing covering very definite locations, so that since the time periods were identified in relation to it, that whole system has now come to an end and you are treating this fact as meaningless. No, it has ended, as it would have if the Flood built it, but you all go on trying to cobble together utterly unrelated situations as if they continued the column. They don't. quote:(Merriam-Webster, note "a locality or region") quote:(CreationWiki.com, note "crust" ) quote:(Conservapedia, note" around the world "l Did you notice that none of those definitions restrict the location of the geologic column in any way? Every point on the crust (which encompasses all the parts that are above the mantle, including sea floors is the top of "the" geologic column. Really it's the local portion of a world-wide geologic column. The interior layers of the crust vary widely from place to place. But we can tell from context that "geologic column" really means "local geologic column. When sediment accumulates on the ocean floor, it's accumulating on top of the (local} geologic column, and adding to it. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
That's some impressive ASCII art.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Wow. I was using MINCE (MINCE Is Not Complete Emacs) on a DG mini literally 50 years ago.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Forget the sea floor. It's not located where it would have to be to continue the geo column.
The geologic column covers the entire earth, as the definitions I posted show. Drop a grain of sand anywhere on earth, including the oceans, and wherever it lands it is on top of the geologic column. Off Greenland:
Mediterranean Sea:
Norwegian Sea:
All the sedimentary deposits proposed to continue the geo column today are a pathetically paltry offering.
And we are back to derogatory assertions with no analysis or discussion. What makes them pathetic and paltry other than your desire to ignore the reality?
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Come on, you know sedimentary deposits in lake beds are proposed to continue the geo column and that IS pretty patehtically inadequate even if the geo column is only as extensive as I've described it. And we are back to derogatory assertions with no analysis or discussion. What makes them pathetically inadequate? All of the cores I posted are from the ocean, two of them from the deep ocean. Where did Lake beds come in? Everyone agrees with me that the geologic column is growing in areas of net deposition. Here's a core from Arizona:
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The Pacific Ocean is 15 times larger than the United States and 6.5 times larger than North America and 3.6 times larger than the Americas (North, Central, and South). The Atlantic Ocean is 2.5 times larger than the Americas. The Indian Ocean is 1.7 times larger than the Americas. All these oceans are areas of net deposition and are adding to the geologic column.
Even if only 1/10 of the Pacific generates one layer it will dwarf the extent of any layers in the Midwest and in the Grand Canyon/Grand Staircase area. WTF is it with lakes? Lakes are usually areas of net deposition, they add to the geologic column, but their additions seldom have impressive extent. I'm talking about OCEANS. The subject is OCEANS. If you reply please do not use the word "lake" or any synonym. Feel free to discuss OCEANS.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It doesn't say what part of Arizona. The depth is also not specified. One needs access to the technical papers for such information. Given the ENORMOUS extent of strata in the Southwest on which you love to harp, it definitely captured one or more of those ENORMOUS strata. .
The point is, ignoring color, the layering in the Arizona core is very similar to the layers in the ocean cores. Layers are being formed as I write and are adding to the geologic column. Some of them rival or exceed the ENORMOUS extent of layers in the Southwest US.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You are assuming that all the strata end at the sea level line? Really? Really?
Did you notice that all of the strata are continuous above the bottom line? There's no broken off pieces in that drawing. Did you notice that all of the strata are continuous above the bottom line? There's no broken off pieces in that drawing. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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