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ringo
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Message 1696 of 2370 (878648)
07-02-2020 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1693 by dad
07-02-2020 12:53 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
dad writes:
Whether a layer was put down 5500 years ago in the former nature....
Why don't geologists see any evidence of a "former nature"?

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1697 of 2370 (878649)
07-02-2020 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 1695 by AZPaul3
07-02-2020 2:24 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
AZPaul3 writes:
dad writes:
TOE, and the BB.
What is it about each that makes them fables?
Well, there's the talking animals.... Oh, wait.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1698 of 2370 (878650)
07-02-2020 4:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1692 by dad
07-02-2020 12:49 PM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
dad writes:
The main reason science uses old ages is because of radioactive decay dating.
"Main" reason, maybe, but not the only reason. Read through all of RAZD's many, many posts on the CORRELATIONS between MANY different methods. Get back to us when you can explain away ALL of them AND explain why they happen to give corresponding results.
dad writes:
Otherwise, why would we not assume much of the ratios we see were part of creation, and that the former nature also affected ratios?
Why would we assume there was a "former nature" at all?
dad writes:
Why must we believe your positive claim?
Oh, make no mistake - nobody here cares what you believe. As long as we can keep your anti-science garbage out of the public schools, you can believe in whatever magic beans you like.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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dad
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Message 1699 of 2370 (878656)
07-02-2020 5:25 PM
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07-02-2020 4:24 PM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
quote:
"Main" reason, maybe, but not the only reason. Read through all of RAZD's many, many posts on the CORRELATIONS between MANY different methods. Get back to us when you can explain away ALL of them AND explain why they happen to give corresponding results.
Circular gang of beliefs. None of the little gang members can stand alone.

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dad
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Message 1700 of 2370 (878658)
07-02-2020 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1697 by ringo
07-02-2020 4:14 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
What have you got against superior extra sensory perceptions of the past?

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dad
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Message 1701 of 2370 (878659)
07-02-2020 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1696 by ringo
07-02-2020 4:12 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
Why don't they see evidence of a same nature either? Strange. That brings to mind the question 'what CAN they see'?

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Message 1702 of 2370 (878660)
07-02-2020 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1694 by JonF
07-02-2020 1:08 PM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
The Oklo fable is amusing.
One of it's main tenets is that magic dunk. The whole area and all the sites were, just when needed precisely, somehow dunked 'miles under' the surface. Then as needed a magic elevator ride back to the surface! We know this not because of any evidence but, you guessed it, because we need it to have been so.
The whole story is belief piled on belief.

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dad
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Message 1703 of 2370 (878661)
07-02-2020 5:31 PM
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07-02-2020 2:24 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
They are entirely based on beliefs and beliefs alone.

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JonF
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Message 1704 of 2370 (878695)
07-03-2020 10:26 AM
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07-02-2020 5:30 PM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
No magic or strange coincidences. Just the same processes we see today acting just as we see today.
Producing a mix of isotopes that tell us it was 1.7 billion years ago.
Of course your explanation for that is "magic", amirite?

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ringo
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Message 1705 of 2370 (878696)
07-03-2020 10:29 AM
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07-02-2020 5:27 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
dad writes:
Why don't they see evidence of a same nature either?
They do, obviously. Everywhere they look, same same. And you can't provide a single solitary scrap of evidence that suggests that nature changed.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1706 of 2370 (878697)
07-03-2020 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 1700 by dad
07-02-2020 5:26 PM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
dad writes:
What have you got against superior extra sensory perceptions of the past?
To begin with, there's no such thing - i.e. there is no evidence that such a thing exists.
I don't remember seeing a discussion of that here. Maybe you should start one.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 1707 of 2370 (878699)
07-03-2020 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 1699 by dad
07-02-2020 5:25 PM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
dad writes:
None of the little gang members can stand alone.
Obviously you haven't read any of it. Hint: It isn't about standing alone. It's about how they hold each other up.
Come back when you have leared something, son.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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dad
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Message 1708 of 2370 (878707)
07-03-2020 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1705 by ringo
07-03-2020 10:29 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
No. They don't really look for anything else but what they believe existed. It's like spraying rocks blue and then sitting there claiming they all look blue to you.
I look at the rocks without your paint and beliefs. They should be so honest.
Edited by dad, : No reason given.

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dad
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Message 1709 of 2370 (878708)
07-03-2020 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1706 by ringo
07-03-2020 10:33 AM


Re: Just as the fact that there is no "Bible" ...
You mentioned the communication that used to exist, not me. From clues in the bible we can make an educated guess that spirits communicate in ways that need not involve oral utterances.

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dad
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Message 1710 of 2370 (878710)
07-03-2020 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1707 by ringo
07-03-2020 10:36 AM


Re: KT layer versus 4500 years ago
That is the thing about gangs. They don't stand alone, they need the gang to look impressive. Sometimes if one knocks out the leader, others might run. In the case of the correlation gang here, name you best point. I can knock it out. You seek to obfuscate by piling a bunch of similar articles of faith, all based on beliefs, and focusing on the circular, internal imaginary agreement off in never never land.
Who cares if misreading ratios in two separate rocks yields totally imaginary dates that could never be proven? 'Gee, the both 'dates' seem to be around a billion years old, give or take an imaginary few million years either way'!
Hilarious.

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