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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
quote:We are those living on earth. We choose what we believe generally. quote:No. Definition of science 1 : the state of knowing : knowledge as distinguished from ignorance or misunderstanding Not the state of having hunches beliefs of feelings or assumptions. You are welcome to your beliefs. Present them as such.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined:
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Sorry to hear that, he was a lively debater.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
The main reason that stuff seems unchallenged is because dissent was quashed and opposing opinions.
There is nothing in the thread I could not deal with handily.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Scripture and ancient historical records of the past.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4441 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
dad writes: The main reason that stuff seems unchallenged is because dissent was quashed and opposing opinions. Prove it.
dad writes: There is nothing in the thread I could not deal with handily. I would like to see that.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
Well, opinions are not accepted, of course. They're not science. But scientists are constantly trying to shoot each other down. Make a breakthrough and you're liable to get a Nobel Prize.
The main reason that stuff seems unchallenged is because dissent was quashed and opposing opinions. dad writes:
Then do it. There is nothing in the thread I could not deal with handily. Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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JonF Member (Idle past 194 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
You are free to believe those... but they are not objective evidence. There are many other explanations for the unusual events described in those writings.
For example, exaggerating the attributes of one's ancestors is a common pract throughout the world, and could be the explanation for the long lives recorded in the Bible.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8548 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Certainly the world described in early Sumer seemed different, since they have people living many centuries. "seemed"? Doesn't sound very reliable or scientific. Is there any evidence the Sumerians actually had lifespans of many centuries or did it only seem that way?
They also had spirits living with us in Egyptian records. Did they? Did they really? How do you know that?
That would not be natural now. No, it wouldn't be. Makes you wonder if such things are real or just stories.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Then post your best shot from it and watch the action.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Sure, soon as I get my hands on it.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
There is no reasonable case for that. The lifespans are offered as a record. There is no precedent in the bible for false chronology.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
We know spirits are listed in Egypt for one reason because the king list cites gods as the first early kings. We know long life spans are recorded in Sumer. There is no science that addresses this either way. You can believe they were liars for no real reason if you like. But the ancient record is still there and says what it says.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8548 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
We know spirits are listed in Egypt for one reason because the king list cites gods as the first early kings. Show me.
We know long life spans are recorded in Sumer. Show me.
But the ancient record is still there and says what it says. Show me.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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dad Member (Idle past 1363 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
"Some scholars (e.g. Wood, 2003) have drawn attention to the fact that there are remarkable similarities between the Sumerian King List and accounts in Genesis. For example, Genesis tells the story of ‘the great flood’ and Noah’s efforts to save all the species of animals on Earth from destruction. Likewise, in the Sumerian King List, there is discussion of a great deluge: the flood swept over the earth.
The Sumerian King List provides a list of eight kings (some versions have 10) who reigned for long periods of time before the flood, ranging from 18,600 to 43,200 years. This is similar to Genesis 5, where the generations from Creation to the Flood are recorded. Interestingly, between Adam and Noah there are eight generations, just as there are eight kings between the beginning of kingship and the flood in the Sumerian King List. After the flood, the King List records kings who ruled for much shorter periods of time. Thus, the Sumerian King List not only documents a great flood early in man’s history, but it also reflects the same pattern of decreasing longevity as found in the Bible - men had extremely long life spans before the flood and much shorter life spans following the flood (Wood, 2003). "The Sumerian King List Reveals the Origin of Mesopotamian Kingship | Ancient Origins And spirits listed as early rulers in Egypt can be seen here Turin King List - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
It's been there all along and you claim to have read it. You can start on it any time instead of posting empty boasts in this thread. Sure, soon as I get my hands on it."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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