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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Your bullet points--
quote:What happened in the fishbowl and area is not relevant to nature in the past on earth, or to deep space and the nature of time there. If you claim that the radius of any body here shows millions of years of history, or any connection at all to the topic, then show how. quote:How ancient? If you offer this as evidence of a same nature on earth in the far past we need to be talking of say, 5000 plus years. Show us some eclipse that helps you? Coral growth, like tree growth obviously depends on what nature exists. You cannot observe growth today in this nature and use that as the basis for all growth in the far past for no reason. Show us what change in moon orbits helps you at all?? quote: All light and waves and etc are seen here in this area of earth and the solar system only. They are seen here in our time and in our space. That does not tell us about what time is like out there. How do you think some pulses arriving from deep space are in any way help your claims?
quote:There are isotopes in a decay chain relationship in this present nature that have very slow rates. That does not mean they used to have any decay at all. It just means in this present nature there is decay, and that we observe how it now works and how long it NOW takes. quote:The Oklo story as told by science is now so full of holes, I offer it as evidence! quote:Show how gravity as seen on earth is relative to what nature was like here in the past? Your points are starting to look like a word salad. quote:All lines are seen here is the prism of our solar system and area, or we might call it, the fishbowl. Yes, we see hydrogen and stuff exists out there...so what? quote:That is just observing on earth how things work now. quote:Just because certain weird non existent decays are not part of our present nature does not mean that this nature existed always here. No connection at all. quote:Laboratory...anything at all is irrelevant. The lab is here in this nature. quote:The early universe is a faith based concept snipped right out of the BB fable book. You have no been out of the earth area, and even the furthest probes are not even a single light day away yet! What you see is here. quote: Of course it would, but nature exists a certain way so we do not have instability such as you mention. Any changes that happened would nit be to THIS present nature of it's components. No one says this nature changed.
quote: Strawman, so changes IN our nature are being discussed here. The light and spectra we see from stars is seen in our time. If time is not the same out there (?) then it would not matter how long anything we see takes. Out there, we cannot say what time is involved, we only see it HERE.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
You have produced no evidence of some "other" nature in the past.
History and the bible record of the past are evidence for me. So you still have nothing to offer?
There IS no science evidence either way, it is purely a matter of belief as far as science goes. It is you who offer your beliefs as science that must bear all the burden of proof. Again, already done but you refuse to see. The reality has been presented to you.
Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
There are thousands of points for you to address. Go and do that instead of boasting to me. I am, if there is some point that you do not yet realize he was defeated on."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
You have presented nothing. What you think was presented is yet to be seen.
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Feel free to raise any one of them.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
More rank denial. Pathetic little child.
Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
They've been raised. You're just evading. Feel free to raise any one of them. We had a story in high school French class about a person from a certain ethnic group who was extremely lazy. The story started out with some examples of how lazy he was. Then it continued with a friend of his coming over. Friend: Did you see the big parade this afternoon? Lazy Guy: No. Friend: It went right past your house. Weren't you home? Lazy Guy: I've been home all day. Friend: Were you inside or in the back? Lazy Guy: No, I've been sitting here on the porch all day. Friend: Then how could you miss it? Lazy Guy: [shrugs] I guess I was facing the wrong way."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Not one item of evidence. Didn't you read Admin's message?
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
I have seen none that are more than belief based yet.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
That doesn't make much sense, since people with many different belief systems draw the same conclusions from the evidence. Why would Muslims and Jews and Catholics and Buddhists and atheists all agree? I have seen none that are more than belief based yet."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
People can accept beliefs regardless of other beliefs they may also have. The issue is not whether they accept them but whether they are beliefs.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
dad writes:
That's only an issue to you. The issue is not whether they accept them but whether they are beliefs."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Example, the same nature in the past upon which science bases models of the past is a belief. It doesn't matter who believes it, it is still a belief.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
the same nature in the past upon which science bases models of the past is a belief. No. It is a fact. One you are too ignorant to comprehend. There is no evidence that "nature" changed in the past or ever. Such is a most stupid invention with no viability and is nothing more than the ravings of a desperate religionist trying to foist an evil doctrine upon society. Factio Republicana delenda est.
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dad Member (Idle past 1359 days) Posts: 337 Joined: |
Preach your religion to someone else. Statements of faith that cannot and are not supported have no place in a discussion.
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