Did the Flood really happen?

Himalayas was not there is a reality. Do you want to deny it?

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My posts were short because there is no need to give more than what I said. If one can respond to what I said, then I will continue. Otherwise, I won't spend time to say even one word more than needed.

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There is certainly a need for more explanation in your posts, if you are trying to build an argument.

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The increase of surface water on the earth has two possible patterns: gradually, include episodic; or suddenly. When consider the processes of water generation, it is more likely the water would first accumulate underground and then suddenly released to the surface.

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By your own statements much of the water was NOT generated underground. Nor have you given a reason why it would suddenly be released to the surface - or why that would be a one-time event, rather than a series of such events separated in time.I guess that all those words you left out were rather necessary after all.

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You can reason or ask question. But it is not appropriate for you to ask evidence. Because you won't understand.

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So you say. But I am sure you can provide much more than you have given, without the condescension.

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For example, one major evidence is that mantle rock of the earth has various amount (but not consistent) of water content. (Do you still like to see the evidence of that? There are tons of petrological papers related to it.)

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Why is that evidence of a global flood? More words you should have provided and didn’t.

These are important questions. This is the first time I see people ask about it.The key answer is: Magma solidified much faster than the making of free water, which is produced by separating itself from magma. So, water can only be sealed underneath thick layers of rock, until the critical moment of eruption.I am sure it is hard for you to understand (it is a graduate level stuff). Well, how much you can learn really depends on how much you can ask. I am trying to give a simplest answer, but am not going to write a textbook on that. Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.

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The key answer is: Magma solidified much faster than the making of free water, which is produced by separating itself from magma. So, water can only be sealed underneath thick layers of rock, until the critical moment of eruption.

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This does not seem adequate to show that it is even likely that there would be a single massive release. It seems more likely to me that if there were catastrophic releases they would be localised and spread over a long period of time. Or - as seems more likely to me volcanoes might release large amounts of water as vapour, which I understand is the more usual way.And, of course, as you argued the Earth has more water than can be accounted for by terrestrial sources, and this additional water would not be trapped as you describe.

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I am sure it is hard for you to understand (it is a graduate level stuff)

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I think that even a professional geologist would agree with me that you have not made any case for a single release of this water, producing a sudden global flood. Because you obviously haven’t, even to me. So drop the condescension until you actually have a real argument.

Think about a bomb, when the powder is ignited inside the shell and the first crack showed up on the shell, would the pressurized gases released in pulses or exploded once for all? If you understand the way that diamond is push from the mantle to the surface (we never witnessed that process either), then you can imagine a similar water releasing process. (if you like, google "kimberlite diatreme")We can never prove what exactly happened when the water came out of the earth because we were not there and the flood will never happen again. But, the net consequence is that enough water showed up on the surface of the earth and flooded the whole earth.Another thing needs to be considered together is that the flood water needs to go back to some place we called it ocean today. How do you think we can get ocean basins large enough to take all the flood water back?

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Think about a bomb, when the powder is ignited inside the shell and the first crack showed up on the shell, would the pressurized gases released in pulses or exploded once for all? If you understand the way that diamond is push from the mantle to the surface (we never witnessed that process either), then you can imagine a similar water releasing process. (if you like, google "kimberlite diatreme")

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That it could in principle happen does not mean that it has happened. And it certainly does not mean that it was all saved up for one single global event.

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We can never prove what exactly happened when the water came out of the earth because we were not there and the flood will never happen again. But, the net consequence is that enough water showed up on the surface of the earth and flooded the whole earth.

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Or, as is far more likely, it never happened.

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Another thing needs to be considered together is that the flood water needs to go back to some place we called it ocean today. How do you think we can get ocean basins large enough to take all the flood water back?

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You’re supposed to be backing up your claim that the Flood was a strong possibility. Until you manage to do that it’s rather inappropriate to assume that it did happen.Indeed, since your flood is clearly not the Biblical Flood you should probably take it to a different thread. There is no chance of Noah living 600 years in the Hadean (I’d be surprised if he lasted 600 seconds).

Now you start to simply denying.
You can not argue the flood scientifically, do you think you can handle the Flood Biblically? That is another additional BIG issue.Give a try: What do you think that the Bible says the Global Flood can only take place ONCE in the whole earth history? You can deny it again. That is about all you can do.

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Now you start to simply denying.

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Certainly not. I’m simply pointing out that essential elements of the Flood story would be absent in your version.

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You can not argue the flood scientifically,

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That must be very embarrassing to you, then, for your arguments to be so easily seen to be empty.

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... do you think you can handle the Flood Biblically? That is another additional BIG issue.

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Depends on what you mean by Biblically. Oh, I probably can, but if it involves foolish assumptions I probably won’t. If it’s at all theological you’d best start another thread which will be placed in an appropriate forum.

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Give a try: What do you think that the Bible says the Global Flood can only take place ONCE in the whole earth history?

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Your question is too unclear to answer. However this topic is about Noah’s Flood, so if you were arguing about some other flood you’re doing it in the wrong place.

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You can deny it again. That is about all you can do.

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I can do rather more as you’ve seen. However if all you can do is pretend to have good arguments pointing out your failures is all that is required.

Give a try: What do you think that the Bible says the Global Flood can only take place ONCE in the whole earth history?This is clearly said in the Bible.

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Give a try: What do you think that the Bible says the Global Flood can only take place ONCE in the whole earth history?

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Now you’ve explained the question the answer is easy - except that you are wrong. God promised Noah he wouldn’t flood the Earth again, but that doesn’t mean that there couldn’t be earlier Floods. And your Flood would have to be earlier.So why don’t you actually go back to trying to show that your Flood is the strong possibility that you claimed ? Or is this latest diversion a tacit admission that you can’t.

No. Geologically, there could only be ONE global scale flood. And there is a need to have one to make the earth earth. It is all about the water budget of planet earth.In other word, other planets in the solar system do not have a global flood, which only showed up once. Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.

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No. Geologically, there could only be ONE global scale flood. And there is a need to have one to make the earth earth. It is all about the water budget of planet earth.

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The question was about the Bible not geology. But if there was only one global scale flood (and you haven’t even made a scientific case for even one) and if it took place at a time when no humans could exist, then obviously the Biblical Flood story cannot be literally true. Which sensible people already know.

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In other word, other planets in the solar system do not have a global flood, which only showed up once.

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And this is just silly. You can’t show it to be true and it wouldn’t matter if you could.What you are doing is just bad apologetics with a smattering of science. You really need to learn how to make rational arguments.

Of course Noah was there. But that is another question and you do not mix that with the current question of a global flood. There was one, and only one global flood in the history of the earth. What's left from the Flood is the current oceanic basin and oceanic water.If you like to put Noah and the Flood together, make another thread about Noah, and I will be there.

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Of course Noah was there

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Then provide the scientific evidence that humans could be alive at the time of your proposed Flood.

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But that is another question and you do not mix that with the current question of a global flood

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I’m not. I’m trying to determine if it is reasonable to say that your proposed Flood is the one being discussed in this thread. And it seems that it is not.

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There was one, and only one global flood in the history of the earth.

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Or there was no global flood in the history of the Earth, which seems more likely to me.

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If you like to put Noah and the Flood together, make another thread about Noah, and I will be there.

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This thread is fine, because if your Flood is not Noah’s Flood discussion of it should be moved to another topic.

You apparently blocked the possibility of continuing discussion. What is your point except saying that neither the Flood nor Noah is a possibility?