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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1
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Ridiculing her propensity to get mad,even if they are attempting to get her to loosen up and realize that her side also has bias...was inappropriate in a humor thread. Teasing someone who gets overly angry is a form of hate. Its like teasing the disabled kid at school for the funny reactions he evokes. All I was doing was attempting to reclaim the Humor thread for the sake of humor.
The basic argument should not be suppressed...it should just not be in the humor thread. And I think that the cartoon about Obama was hateful also. Add By Edit:
Bitter Laughter This was an article you may find interesting. It talks of the biting political humor and the not so subtle hate behind it from Mark Twain and HL Mencken. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Faith, that was off topic for the Hate Thread! The whole point of the thread is to be hateful, not to repent! (Just kidding, I appreciate your honesty)
Allow me to take up the cause (of hate). I too will be quite honest.Things I dislike about authoritarian conservatives: AND YET.....(here is the irony)Things I dislike about progressive liberals: In other words, I do fight myself at times, as ringo asserts. I am an uncomfortable moderate. I dont trust the liberals (or even Jesus) enough to simply give without stashing. I consider it my divine right to stash and to be allowed to do so. In essence, I hate conservatives that are wealthier than I am who want to keep (or diminish, or take)my money, and I hate liberals who are voting for me to be forced to help people poorer than me...especially those from other countries. This is my sinful carnal nature talking. In a way, I hate myself at times.Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Faith writes:
We have responsibility for America, don't we? Certainly that's the job of our President, to protect and defend and promote America. And through conservative eyes America has been unfairly attacked by the Left for decades now....ringo writes: I am a political moderate. I see positive traits in both Left and Right Wing ideologies and I also disagree with many of what both sides push. ringos argument is sound, yhowever. The president needs to represent all of the people...no matter what the ideology is. We are not a populist nation any more than we are a liberal nation.
Those leftists are Americans too. It is not presidential to vilify a large proportion of his own people. Faith writes: The fact is that the wealthier people expect the US middle class to support itself...in a world where we have to work harder and get educated simply to keep up with the competitive nature of the rest of the planet. I suppose this is not directly the wealthier peoples fault...but it exposes the idea that they look out only for themselves and do not want to help their fellow brethren succeed. This whole idea that marxists dominate the University campuses is also one-sided. You get your information wearing rose colored glasses. Christians are not only conservatives nor should they be. I get that you are torn between some liberal positions and some conservative ones, and that discussion could get well beyond my abilities pretty rapidly, but the idea that people who are wealthier than you are have any desire or ability to deprive you of money is a liberal lie. Also...responding to Faith in another thread:
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I'll move this over here.
RAZD writes: David Koch, conservative donor and philanthropist, has died at age 79 One down ... Enjoy Theodoric writes: I hope his death was painful. Fuck him. Chiroptera writes: As one comment I read put it, it almost makes you wish there were a hell, doesn't it? Tanypteryx writes:
I certainly agree with you about the character of Koch. He used his wealth and power to hasten the destruction of our planet's life support sytems. And he also used that power to influence our legislatures and Congress to stack the deck in his favor to avoid fair taxes and environmental protection regulations. He was truly an ugly American. And surprisingly, he also was a major contributor to public broadcasting and supported a number of programs that I enjoy watching and support myself. I find myself really, really puzzled why he engaged in a pattern of behavior that clearly is leading to accelerating degradation of the life support system and life on Earth. It is baffling to me that a powerful individual would have such disdain for the future of humanity and all life. Of course, he's gone, so he will not have to face the consequences of his lifelong behavior. The real villains rarely do.(...)I ran into a guy a while back who was still pissed that Ken Lay (Enron CEO) died a few months into his prison sentence. It was like he wanted to resurrect the guy so he could serve a real life sentence.Faith writes: Oh all right, I have to ask: why do you all hate them so much? I've heard of them, that they are rich supporters of conservative causes, but I've also heard from conservatives that they don't like their politics. In any case I really don't know anything about them except those comments. So why do you hate them so much? Is it something like how my side hates Soros? I suspect you've hit the nail on the head, Faith. The Koch Brothers were the conservative versions of George Soros. I'll research a bit to add fuel to our Hate Thread. All I know from what I have read so far is that the Koch Brothers contributed nothing to the Trump campaign, yet they are conservatives.
George Soros: Billionaire philanthropist the far right loves to hateWhy Do People Hate the Koch Brothers? Their Political Influence Does Not Sit Well With Many Americans Edited by Thugpreacha, : added commentChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I just pulled them off the internet...I never really thought about the media sources in general. I googled "Why do the left hate Soros? and "Why do the Right hate the Koch Brothers.
I have heard, however, that media in general is left of center ideologically. Being a political moderate, I usually read several articles from different sources, but I never really consider that the way articles are written surreptitiously forms my political views. Should I?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Perhaps the media in general is more left leaning than right leaning. At work, we have a newspaper called The Epoch Times which I read on break occasionally. It seems more Right Leaning, but I never read anything based on my preconceived ideologies... I'm gonna google a few more terms though. This fire is beginning to burn.
Faith writes:
How about this one?
A conservative can't help noticing that just about all the headlines we see anywhere, in print or on the internet, are skewed strongly Left. Google has become more Leftist by the day it seems. Why the Left Is Consumed With HateChance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Media Bias: Pretty Much All Of Journalism Now Leans Left, Study Shows
So my heading is true. So what does it mean? Staying true to my claim of being a political moderate, I am curious what the media itself says about this Left Right skirmish... I found a basic comparison chart which seems relatively truthful.
Comparison Chart The Hate is real. I've seen it come from both sides. The hate is based on differing ideologies and many people become energized to defend their political and moral ideology of choice. Faith and Theodoric are two who come from opposing (or different, at any rate) extremes. And I observe that AZPaul3 has a disdain for religions it seems. At least mine. I can see where the behavior of many "Christians" warrants such strong feelings of opposition. AZPaul3, if Jesus (as portrayed in the Book) were alive today, would you agree with Him or would you seek to limit His voice to no higher standard than your own?
jar writes: This gets back to my question regarding Christianity being spread because of its Source or because of human ambition for power(and money) and I suspect we can argue either way. You likely will ask how I know that such and such a copy is being spread due to a Holy Spirit and what that even is. You have a way to break this stuff down...why can't you just represent Christianity and support your local Holy Spirit? (Careful...we don't want the Hate Thread to drift off-topic ) Actually the media is consumed by two things, will(the copy) make money and can it be defended with reality?Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I read your link:
Even David Kochs Philanthropy Was Toxic Some quotes I gleaned from that article:
quote: As a political moderate, I see good and bad in both liberal and conservative positions. One of my close friends, Paul my accountant, is a champion of Dr.Milton Friedman and after reading much of Friedman's theories, I am semi-convinced that the US would never succeed as a socialist nation. The wealth needs to be generated from somewhere, and simply planning to tax the rich and *make* them pay their *fair share* is unrealistic---they will always find ways to escape that if they so choose. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.~Stile
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