This makes me think that if you ever found God, you would accept Him only if He worked for you.
If God wanted to do terrible things to good people - that doesn't work for me and I would not accept Him.
Are you saying that would actually work for you?
You would do terrible things to good people just because a God told you too?
That makes me worry for your soul.
The whole idea of you working for Him seems tyrannical in many minds.
Only if He wants to do terrible things to good people.
Who wouldn't agree with that?
I guess what I see as a point of contention is your argument regarding equality of "spirits".
If the Holy Spirit requires submitting to do terrible things to good people - then I whole-heartedly contend that the secular-human-Spirit is waaaaaaay above the Holy Spirit.
One side touts an absolute while the other side advocates "whatever work" or whatever it takes to achieve peace.
I don't advocate "whatever works" or whatever it takes to achieve peace.
I advocate all people living together in harmony.
If anyone's on the side of doing terrible things to good people - I'm against them.
Otherwise, I'm sure we can figure a way to live together.
Under normal circumstances your argument makes sense.
That's a good start
We believe that we are in a spiritual war because many societal values are changing, in our opinion, for the worse.
Can you name one? We may agree more than you think.
Of course - if you think "gays shouldn't get married."
Then you're doing terrible things to good people - and I think you have some soul searching to do. Perhaps you should pray on it.
Critics will ask us why we are being authoritarian, judgemental, and warlike. We may well argue that satan is a clever pied piper that is leading the majority down a destructive path which seems good but is not.
Sounds like you have good intentions.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions - is it not?
I don't care about what you intend
I care about what you do
And, if you do terrible things to good people, regardless of your intentions
- then my Spirit is obviously much better than yours.
If not - then we have equal Spirits.
Equal Spirits are a good thing.
The dogma that we have been taught suggests that satan is an angel of light and will attempt to seduce the world through ideologies that seem liberal and progressive but are in reality poisoning humanity.
I think it's good (and required) to be vigilant.
Just make sure you're not the one being poisoned.
Many feel that the last days will see the rise of antichrist and that the Body of Christ---the church---will itself be persecuted for taking a hardline stand and not changing with the culture.
Again - if "the culture changes" include doing less terrible things to good people - I'm all for them.
If you're against such things - we will have issues.
If you're all-for such things as well - then we'll get along just fine.
We will not compromise simply to achieve peace, because we are afraid that the wrong spirit will be in charge.
Sounds like a huge, open wound just waiting to be poisoned.
I suggest you pray on it and try to be vigilant on watching for terrible things happening to good people.
There is, after all, a possibility I may be wrong. I only wish that my opponents would acknowledge that obedience to a Messiah may be the right path.
As long as it includes not doing terrible things to good people - I'll be the first to submit!!
Unless one believes that personified evil does not exist any more than God does
I don't really care if "personified" evil exists or not.
I just care if "regular evil" exists - which it does.
Sometimes people do terrible things to good people.
I think this should be fought against wherever and whenever.
If you agree - then we have equal Spirits.
If you disagree - then I'll be watching you very carefully.