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Hyroglyphx
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Message 41 of 49 (861252)
08-18-2019 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Faith
08-18-2019 10:35 AM


Re: My 2 cents
Oh nonsense. The Bible is chock full of such objective evidence. All sorts of miracles witnessed by lots of people from beginning to end. That is objective evidence and that's what the evidence was provided for: to be evidence of the reality of God. It's really bizarre that it's dismissed because it got written down.

Therefore we can trust the objective value of the Veda's and the Qur'an because "it got written down?" If that same logic applies to the bible then give a compelling reason why that doesn't work for Islam. If you can understand why people find it hard to believe Qur'anic scripture then it shouldn't be difficult to surmise why people find biblical scripture equally unbelievable.

A 2,000 - 4,000 year old claim is not objective evidence, its an assertion. It could be true, but there's really no way to verify it. That's the value of prophecies because at least to some extent it would be testable. Of course, prophecies are often vague and unspecified. A real prophecy would offer dates, times and specificity so that indisputable evidence would speak for itself.

Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.


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Hyroglyphx
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Message 43 of 49 (861254)
08-18-2019 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Faith
08-18-2019 11:48 PM


Re: My 2 cents
Those writings don't offer physical evidence of God, but the Bible offers lots and lots of such evidence.

I don't think anyone is asking or requiring physical evidence of God. I think most people understand conceptually that God would be an incorporeal being that transcends time, space and matter. They just want a compelling reason to even assume it


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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 49 (861257)
08-19-2019 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Faith
08-19-2019 12:02 AM


Re: not what I said
The context of what I said was the claim that there is no evidence for God, which is a sort of asking for evidence so I gave it. Perhaps you should read back to that point in the thread. You also seem to have gotten the wrong idea about what I said about its being written down: I did not give that as any verification of the truth of the Bible but the opposite: I said that it is disputed merely because it is written down. Which provides the excuse for calling it a myth.

If that is truly the context then I sincerely apologize. It looked like you were saying that because of the bible that God is objectively believable.


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