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Tangle
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Message 8 of 150 (861147)
08-18-2019 3:14 AM


Nah, it's drive-by spam. If he doesn't come back it should be deleted.

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Message 11 of 150 (861163)
08-18-2019 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by Faith
08-18-2019 7:50 AM


Faith writes:

Too bad. I've never been very clear what the differences are between ID and YEC.

ID is pretend science but even pretend science could not sign up to a young earth, so my guess would be that there ain't no YEC IDists.

If there are, their heads are in a very bad place.


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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 44 of 150 (861234)
08-18-2019 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Jedothek
08-18-2019 1:15 PM


Re: ID and creationism
Jedothek writes:

AZPaul3's post is the most illogical of all the contributions to this thread hitherto. We learn from it that AZPaul3 does not like the ID folks; he thinks their motives are creepy.

The world thinks you motives are more than creepy. It thinks they're corrupt and a pack of lies. The reason is this

quote:
The intelligent design movement is a neo-creationist religious campaign for broad social, academic and political change to promote and support the pseudoscientific[1] idea of intelligent design (ID), which asserts that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."[2][3][4] Its chief activities are a campaign to promote public awareness of this concept, the lobbying of policymakers to include its teaching in high school science classes, and legal action, either to defend such teaching or to remove barriers otherwise preventing it.[5][6] The movement arose out of the creation science movement in the United States,[7] and is driven by a small group of proponents.[8][9]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedge_strategy

This from their own documentation.

And I'm guessing this is a reason why you might not like Wikipaedia


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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 101 of 150 (861524)
08-22-2019 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by RAZD
08-22-2019 1:32 PM


Re: Geting back to the question of ID
RAZD writes:

Now, as a Deist, my belief is that the universe was created by god/s (or their equivalent) and then had no further interaction with it…

I'm glad you used the word 'belief' there. I find deists really weird, they go rational, rational, rational, rational, whoops irrational.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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