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dwise1
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Message 3 of 10 (862421)
09-05-2019 1:58 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by jar
09-04-2019 7:19 PM


Re: Amen Brother...Preach the GOSPEL
Sins are no body's business except God & the sinner except with the CCoI Sins are BIG Business.
I agree in principle and based on the definition of "sin" as being a purely religious concept which has nothing to do with morality except for when particular immoral acts can be paired up with particular sins. Sin only affects the individual "sinner" whereas immorality affects others as well as society. All of which can easily embroil us in convoluted discussions that get us nowhere. But that's not what I replied to talk about.
 
It turns out that "true Christians" operate on a double standard. Let me start with a true story.
I was involved with an extended email correspondence (for about 20 years overall off-and-on) with Bill, a local "creation science" activist, a legend in his own mind. Bill is a pathological liar and thoroughly dishonest, basically the poster child for the very worst qualities of creationists. If I may appear to have very little tolerance for typical dishonest creationist BS tactics, Bill is largely to blame for my attitude.
At one point, another "true Christian" came in contact with me and presented himself as a very good friend of Bill. I ended up describing what Bill had done and said. The evidence was so massive that this friend had to admit that Bill was doing grave wrong and was acting directly in conflict with Christian teachings (AKA "sinning" such as lying). Since I attributed Bill's freedom to sin to his Christian peers not knowing what he was doing, I urged his "best friend" to talk with Bill to warning him of the danger he was placing his soul into, that "best friend" absolutely refused to do so, not even to mention to Bill that he might be doing wrong. He claimed that Christian doctrine forbade him from speaking to Bill about this, not even mention it to him, because that is only between Bill and God and even Bill's "best friend" is forbidden to whisper even one word of warning that Bill might be going astray in any way.
So there's the one standard that a "Christian's" sin is solely between him and God and nobody else can even attempt to warn him of his going astray (not that God will ever give him notification of that fact until after it's too late and that Christian must stand in Judgement -- "But I had no idea I was straying!" "No defense!").
The other standard is that they get very deeply into everybody else's business in the most intrusive manners possible.

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