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Author Topic:   Atheists must appeal to an absolute moral standard when complaining about wrongs.
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Message 8 of 71 (865140)
10-21-2019 9:08 AM


Come on Guido; at least try to make an intelligent argument.

Of course there is no need to appeal to any absolute moral standard regardless of whether someone is an atheist or theist. That's as completely silly as trying to argue there is some absolute moral standard in the Bible.

Really kid, you can do much better than this absurdity.


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Message 12 of 71 (865160)
10-21-2019 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by GDR
10-21-2019 1:57 PM


GDR writes:

Any absolute standard is simply about whether the response is loving, lovingly neutral or unloving.

But again that is simply far too subjective; there is no standard based on loving. The Inquisitors loved their victims enough to torture then until the victims reached a state of grace where they recanted their transgressions and so were saved and died.


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Message 16 of 71 (865177)
10-21-2019 4:54 PM
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10-21-2019 4:52 PM


Re: We Decide - Not You
Phat writes:

Despite lack of evidence, (the only basic sound argument) Belief is determined by a body of society (currently still the majority) by experiencing, discussing, deciding, and slowly changing what belief is today.

HUH?

What belief is held by what majority?


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Message 20 of 71 (865188)
10-21-2019 5:15 PM
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10-21-2019 4:57 PM


Re: We Decide - Not You
LOL

Sorry Phat, read your source. First it is "Americans" and the sole common factor is "some higher power". That includes the FSM and the Tooth Fairy.


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Message 46 of 71 (865345)
10-23-2019 5:54 PM
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10-23-2019 5:13 PM


It's also not a one time judgement; while intent plays a part outcomes are equally important. Morality thus is not discreet but a continuum. When can say some act would be moral and still at a later point determine it was not moral. We can intend to improve peoples lives by tearing down the slums and building new roads bordering new housing but a few decades later realize we also destroyed a sense of community and through that loss of community did more harm than the poor living facilities.

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Message 70 of 71 (865837)
10-31-2019 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Theodoric
10-31-2019 5:47 PM


Re: Time to shut down?
Guido is a good kid but likely another Hit-n-Run.

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