However, no impeachment was ever conducted this way.
We know why they are doing it this way, of course. The people they are interviewing are not saying what they want to hear, far from it, and they don't want that to get out. They are looking for someone who can say something against Trump they can run with. Since they are good at inventing such claims out of a few words they may be able to pull it off. But so far they had this guy Taylor whose testimony seemed promising but Ratcliff ripped that all to shreds.
It's a Star Chamber attempt to get something on Trump and that's why the other Republicans wanted in. It's an impeachment inquiry under other pretenses.
Did you not read a word I and others wrote? Authorized senior Republicans were there! Where do you get this kind of crap? Are you really so desperate to defend Trump that you can ignore these facts? I refuse to believe you are so blind/stupid/dumb as to believe this conspiracy crap. I know your head is smarter than this. Why are you insisting on this shit?
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The thing is, the Republicans who "invaded" the meeting are highly authoritative and credible and they say something different. They call it a Star Chamber hearing on impeachment and that being the case the entire House membership should be present and have the right to cross examine witnesses and so on. When you all say one thing according to the people in the closed meeting, which is being led by the despicable liar Schiff, and the rest of the House say something else, I'm going with the rest of the House.
I do have to correct one thing. According to the following report there have been lots of leaks of the usual kind meant to denigrate Trump by hook or by crook.
Oh and they also make it clear how the media twists everything, absolutely everything. The stories of them "storming" the meeting are Leftist spin. They walked in and sat down. Some mistakenly had their phones on them but yielded them when asked. The News Media are despicable propagandists.
Oh and the meeting was not classified, as Schiff confirmed.
The country is polarized, severely divided, there aren't just different opinions on everything, there are drastically irreconcilable differences fueled by the Left's lies, distortions, fake news, censorship of the other side and so on.
Oh and I'm very glad there are a couple of worthy Republicans in the meeting, but that wasn't enough for those barred from it.
You didn't prove it, did you? It's just your assertion.
But I do have to admit I'm predisposed against everything Leftist. Pelosi comes out and says something about how Trump is in a bad place, just a few words with nothing to back them up and no content, but enough to make it sound like she's got something on Trump which never ever turns out to be true, and all the rest of the evil Left says similar things day in and day out, every hour and minute of every day so you try to stick a few "facts" into this poisonous caldron and want me to forget the vile nature of the whole brew?
Watch the video. They claimed to represent the whole House which the Star Chamber was preventing from participating in an inquiry that is important to all of them and their constituents.
Re: It really is simple Faith. Simpler than you think, jar
That's fine, I wasn't counting, I'm just happy that some Republicans got up the guts to confront this Kangaroo Court which is just the latest in the Liberal fishing expedition to find something against a duly elected President they simply dislike. The rest of the House should have joined them but wimpery reigns it seems against these criminal Leftists who are out to destroy all legal and constitutional forms for impeachment.
And oh how I hope Horowitz's investigation doesn't let us down, or Barr's. We on the Right know there's tons of criminal stuff the left has done against Trump since he started running for President. LET ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT.
If it doesn't all come out, if the suppression continues because the forces of evil really are that strong in America these days, then there is no hope for this country at all.
Re: It really is simple Faith. Simpler than you think, jar
Oh the behavior of Schiff and Pelosi is enough to tell me this is a Kangaroo Court. They found a way to have a completely private fishing expedition for any shred of misbehavior they can trash this President with. Since they already have lists and lists of allegedly impeachable misbehaviors you'd think that would do it for them, but they know none of it amounts to more than wishful thinking, none of it would stand up in court. so they keep looking and looking and looking and pretending what they've found is devastating for Trum when it's all just puff. When they get some little thing that rubs them the wrong way from someone they are interviewing they leak it out as evidence that Trump is a miscreant who is going Down. He's been going Down according to Schiff for months now, years, and yet Trump has not gone Down and shows no signs of going Down. Still the fantasy continues, the vendetta, and the Kangaroo Court is the latest manifestation of it. Since they have nothing to charge him with, the drama itself has become their method of impeachment. Keep up the badmouthing that has no foundation, the innuendo and empty accusation, and maybe that will be enough to keep the public deluded.
AbE: Oh keep calling us Deplorables, keep calling Republicans Deplorables who got up the guts to face down this corrupt impeachment charade, it only tells the voters you have nothing and it motivates them to take you all down.
Re: It really is simple Faith. Simpler than you think, jar
OH thank you! You actually concede that it's got nothing to do with rules regarding impeachment.
But I haven't claimed they are violating any specific rule that I know of, it's more a violation of the spirit of justice, they are doing a distraction and rationalizing it on the basis of irrelevant rules. If they are doing an impeachment inquiry, which seems to be the case, it needs to include the entire House and not be some closed-door private meeting where a few get to interview some witnesses and the rest of the House doesn't get to cross examine them. The Clinton and Nixon impeachments allowed normal rights and due process to the President, but this seems to be nothing but a thinly rationalized way to deny the President or his lawyers any rights in the proceedings at all.
Re: It really is simple Faith. Simpler than you think, jar
They already have the whistleblower report and corroborating evidence in the transcript of the call. They are just gathering more evidence, so as to make a stronger case.
Oh come on. You all claim to have lists and lists and lists of Trump's crimes and impeachable behavior. If any of that amounted to anything impeachable they wouldn't need any more. If the supposed whistleblower thing amounted to anything -- and the transcript did not corroborate it, it showed it all to be a lie and Schiff in particular to be a fool who should be impeached himself -- then they would not have needed their closed hearing.
Oh but we are assured day in and ady out that they've got the goods on Trump coming and going. That's been the endless chant for three years. Percy gives such lists and dwise just put one up on another thread. See my reference to it in Message 3211 on the Right Side of the News thread. There's nothing there, PK, you are all falling for propaganda, smoke and mirrors, or maybe you're not falling for it, you're in on it.
Since they already have lists and lists of allegedly impeachable misbehaviors you'd think that would do it for them, but they know none of it amounts to more than wishful thinking, none of it would stand up in court. so they keep looking and looking and looking and pretending what they've found is devastating for Trum when it's all just puff.
See - even you acknowledge that they need to get more evidence.
That's pretty funny since what I'm saying is that they have NO evidence whatever, that's why there's that ridiculous closed-door meeting going on. They huff and puff about all the evidence they claim to have, oh it's going to bring him DOWN DOWN DOWN, like tomorrow, like NOW and it never does, it's all hot air, but they just keep going on to the next huffing and puffing which amounts to another blast of hot air and nothing more. So that's why they are interviewing witnesses hoping to drum up some actual evidence.
But somehow you call the attempt a fishing expedition.
Yup, just the word for it.
In fact the evidence is pretty good, but maybe not good enough in a court, especially in a court biased in favour of the defendant,
Which is another silliness since it's very easy for the Left to shop for the right judge and get it.
I don't know when you guys are going to face it but all you've got is a long list of wishful supposed wrongdoings by Trump. Not a single one would hold up in court or they'd have been running with it and already had their vote for impeachment. They don't even need one to hold up in court, that's how bad it is, they've got NOTHING.
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