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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You mixed up attributions I fear.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not going to answer silly irrelevant tendentious questions. Insinuations? No thanks. We get enough of that in the Leftist media every day.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Why is the question silly or biased?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Faith writes: I'm not going to answer silly irrelevant tendentious questions. You don't want to admit that you don't care if Trump is corrupt and is abusing his office.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Not Jar btw ...
problem is how the buttons look (on my browser) seems backwards. Do you AGREE or DISAGREE with me that ... / The filled circle looks like the picked one versus the empty circle
Do you AGREE or DISAGREE with me that ... / Same code, different background color I've updated the post in question to alleviate this confusion. Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : No reason given.by our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Capt Stormfield Member (Idle past 455 days) Posts: 428 From: Vancouver Island Joined:
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... in somethin [sic] I didn't hear very clearly on Limbaugh this morning... As succinct a summation of your research style as I can imagine. It explains a great deal about the quality of your conclusions.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Not doing hypotheticals. That's all the Left has I understand, which is a good reason not to do them. This recent supposedly transparent official Impeachment Inquiry or whatever they call it simply isn't, no surprise there. The Republicans have due process except when Schiff or Pelosi say they don't. Ha Ha. And meanwhile there has not yet been one CHARGE they've established to impeach him over. Isn't that kind of fundamental? You come up with a charge and go from there. Funny with all those lists of Trump's supposed wrongdoings everybody keeps throwing around here you'd think they'd have one or two or a few charges to announce as what they are going to try to impeach him for. Gee, maybe they don't have any. Guess they'll have to make up a few. Which is of course all they've done so far anyway. But this is just another stall, nothing official is underway yet. What a miserable charade.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Not doing hypotheticals. ... Can I hold you to that? No more hypotheticals about evolution and the age of the earth? Certainly no more hypotheticals about an imaginary flood?
... That's all the Left has I understand, ... Actually the adults in the room have quite a bit of real solid evidence on impeachable offensives, some committed in full view in public. Awarding the G7 summit location to his Doral Resort for starters. He owns it, he will profit from it, this violates the emoluments clause. Asking a foreign government for political help for two. Obstruction of justice for three. And his latest: bribing senators:
quote: There's more. Ever heard the phrase "where there's smoke there's fire?"
... This recent supposedly transparent official Impeachment Inquiry or whatever they call it simply isn't, no surprise there. The Republicans have due process except when Schiff or Pelosi say they don't. Ha Ha. And meanwhile there has not yet been one CHARGE they've established to impeach him over. Isn't that kind of fundamental? You come up with a charge and go from there. ... The impeachment inquiry hearings were held to determine if there were sufficient grounds to launch a formal impeachment hearing. They did, so now we have the formal public hearing to determine the charges to be made.
... You come up with a charge and go from there. ... You gather evidence of a wrongdoing, then you make a charge of wrongdoing -- that is where we are.
Funny with all those lists of Trump's supposed wrongdoings everybody keeps throwing around here you'd think they'd have one or two or a few charges to announce as what they are going to try to impeach him for. Gee, maybe they don't have any. Guess they'll have to make up a few. Which is of course all they've done so far anyway. ... Yep, lists of evidence for wrongdoings, lots of them. So now we go to the part where they are formalized into charges of impeachable offensives. What's made up are the pathetic excuses by the White House for not complying with the subpoenas.
... But this is just another stall, nothing official is underway yet. What a miserable charade. Curiously it is the White House that is stalling and putting out smoke screens and trying to hide further evidence of their malfeasance. Why do that if they are innocent? Smoke. "where there's smoke there's fire?" We will see this unfold. EDIT to correct in italics: Trump has already made history: he is the FOURTH president to face impeachment (Nixon faced it but resigned before the votes to impeach were made). Trump has done the same as Clinton regarding charges of impeachment (weasel out of that one), he was not convicted by the senate, but Trump has done more than have illicit affairs that he covered up. Things that may rise to treason. Trump has done the same as Nixon regarding charges of impeachment (obstruction of justice, coverup), and Nixon resigned because he was told he would lose in the Senate. Where there's smoke there's usually fire. Looks like a LOT of fires to me ... Enjoy Edited by RAZD, : . Edited by RAZD, : correctionby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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And don't forget keeping two sets of books. Al had the same issue and he got free room and board.
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Faith writes: Not doing hypotheticals. That's all the Left has I understand, which is a good reason not to do them. They have witnesses who are saying that there was a quid pro quo of money for investigations into Biden. This isn't a hypothetical.
The Republicans have due process except when Schiff or Pelosi say they don't. House Republicans have no right to due process because they are not being tried in a trial. House Republicans are not being charged with a crime. You really need to learn what due process is. Not hypothetically what due process is, but what it actually is. No one has the right to have their lawyers question witnesses as investigators are questioning those witnesses. No one has a right to face their accusers in a grand jury trial. That's not how due process works.
And meanwhile there has not yet been one CHARGE they've established to impeach him over. That's what they are doing right now, getting the evidence to determine if there were impeachable offenses. Do you think due process means the police can't investigate anything until there is an indictment? You have the process entirely backwards.
Funny with all those lists of Trump's supposed wrongdoings everybody keeps throwing around here you'd think they'd have one or two or a few charges to announce as what they are going to try to impeach him for. They will announce them once they feel they have gathered all of the evidence.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1404 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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quote: This "absolute immunity" argument could have serious impact on the balance of power. Enjoyby our ability to understand RebelAmericanZenDeist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1444 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They have witnesses who are saying that there was a quid pro quo of money for investigations into Biden. This isn't a hypothetical. Oh really. "They have witnesses who are saying" just about anything they want them to say, but it still hasn't amounted to anything but hot air. And I note you don't name these "witnesses." But that's standard for the Left, it's always an unnamed witness or official or whistleblower we often never get to hear named. But they get away with this scam. And then if we do find out it will still be a bunch of hot air anyway, it will turn out that the quid pro quo was not what it was insinuated to be or it was perfectly SOP or something. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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With a long history of obstructing justice.
Newsweek Over the course of decades, Donald Trump's companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders Yes, the truth is coming out, Faith. And it isn’t what you want to see, Edited by PaulK, : Remove space in url tag
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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And I note you don't name these "witnesses."
Bill TaylorLt. Col Alexander Vindman Gordon Sondland It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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And we see the same tactics now as in 1973, when the Trumps were accused of refusing to let apartments to African-Americans.
Shortly after the government filed its case in October, Trump attacked: He falsely declared to reporters that the feds had no evidence he and his father discriminated against minorities... Trump submitted an affidavit contending that the government had engaged in some unspecified wrongdoing by releasing statements to the press on the day it brought the case without first having any "formal communications" with him; he contended that he'd learned of the complaint only while listening to his car radio that morning. But Trump's sworn statement was a lie. Court records show that the government had filed its complaint at 10 a.m. and phoned him almost immediately afterward. Trump announced in a press conference that his family and their company were bringing a $100 million countersuit against the government for libel; anonymous tenants and community leaders, he said, had been calling and writing letters expressing shock at the government's "outrageous lies." Yet when the government filed its standard discovery requests, the Trumps reacted as though seeking that information was outrageous. They argued in court that prosecutors had no case and wanted to riffle through corporate files on a fishing expedition. They were then hit with a new delaying tactic. The Trumps submitted a filing based on statements by Trump that radically misrepresented what had occurred that day. He claimed a prosecutor, Donna Goldstein, had arrived at the company without notifying the Trumps' counsel, refused to telephone their lawyer and demanded access to Trump's office. The prosecutoraccompanied, the Trumps claimed, by five "stormtroopers"then banged on doors throughout the office, insisting she and her team be allowed to "swarm haphazardly through all the Trump files and to totally disrupt their daily business routine." The same tactics we see today, and used for the same reason. Trump is guilty as hell.
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