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Author Topic:   Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
Theodoric
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Message 11 of 308 (866391)
11-10-2019 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Faith
11-10-2019 11:03 AM


Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
We can let the vile racist, homophobe, islamophobe and misogynist speak for himself. That you support and push these vile beliefs speaks volumes. You cannot claim you are not a racist, homophobes and misogynist if you support his beliefs and donnies.

Pragerisms

quote:
“OK, so here’s my question to you, this theoretical black or Hispanic woman who is now employed: What is more important to you? A president whom you think loves Hispanics and blacks, but you’re unemployed? Or a president you think doesn’t like Hispanics and blacks, but you have a job? What would you prefer if you were given that choice? If you are normal, and I’m sorry to use that term, if you’re normal, you would far prefer to have the job and have a president who you think didn’t like you.”

Claimed he was happier the night Trump was elected, than when his children were born.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/people/dennis-prager/

quote:
“Many many young men don’t know what it means to be masculine, because feminism and the left have crapped on masculinity. Sorry for the language, but I can’t think of any verb that does it justice. That’s what they have done,” Prager declared. “In fact, toxic masculinity for the left is redundant. All masculinity is toxic. So I think a certain number of men, young men, have only one way of saying, ‘Hello, I’m not a female,’ and that is to grow a beard.”

https://www.mediaite.com/...inism-has-crapped-on-masculinity
quote:
Pundit Dennis Prager—now known for his Prager U propaganda videos—argued back then that Ellison should not be allowed to use a Quran rather than a Bible for his ceremonial swearing-in. Prager wrote that anyone who is not willing to take an oath on the Bible should not serve in Congress. (When Prager got pushback, he portrayed himself as the victim of “hate-filled attacks,” denying that he was endorsing any kind of religious test for public office.)

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/...g-muslims-unites-the-right

quote:
Women have to overcome the power of their emotions and their chronic malcontentedness in order to mature into good women.

https://www.wnd.com/...omen-malcontents/#Ldg8Jjy11VePLvqy.99

quote:
Prager is notable for having a history of being extremely homophobic despite denying it every ten seconds in his articles and radio show. He has claimed that the legalization of gay marriage is a greater threat to America than economic depression.[8] He claims that this is because legalizing gay marriage will redefine the concept of "gender itself". He is credited with writing the 1993 essay Judaism's Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism rejected Homosexuality in which he writes,[9] well, we'll let the man speak for himself:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dennis_Prager#Gay_marriage

All this information is sourced with links. If you want to listen to and show respect to this vile piece of shit, that is your choice. This just goes to show that you are as much of a racist, homophobic, Islamophobic misogynist as he is.

Edited by Theodoric, : clarity

Edited by Theodoric, : spelling


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 16 of 308 (866398)
11-10-2019 4:11 PM
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11-10-2019 4:04 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
I thought Prager did a pretty good job of showing some of the threats. I'd add the beating up of a guy right after the election because he'd voted for Trump; the hounding of Republicans out of restaurants; the intimidation and accusation of racism of the kid wearing the MAGA hat minding his own business after a pro **** event; the physical violence by Antifa on campuses when conservatives are scheduled to speak.

How about w do similar to what Percy did on another thread. You bring up an incident of intimidation against a wing nut and I will provide a counter of the intimidation of someone on the left. You seem to think it only counts if it happens to someone on the right and threats and intimidation against those on the left don't count. Lets see who runs out of examples first.

I'd be afraid to wear a MAGA hat in public, a lot of people are.

I am afraid to wear a Puerto Rico hat in places. I am afraid to proclaim I am an atheist where I live.

Liberals aren't intimidated anywhere, they are in-your-face in the street, on the campus, certainly in print and on TV, what on earth are you talking about.

Have you heard of Fox, Rush Limbaugh, right wing radio, Dennis Prager? You truly have no self awareness.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 17 of 308 (866399)
11-10-2019 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by PaulK
11-10-2019 4:08 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
Just goes to show the glorification of ignorance on the right. They do not see their ignorance as an opportunity to learn, but revel it as a badge of honor.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 29 of 308 (866412)
11-10-2019 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Phat
11-10-2019 4:20 PM


Re: Calling News "Fake" is another excuse for ignoring it.
Note the lady in the video I posted above. Her voice can be heard crowing about how fake news is over.

I don't watch videos that are posted here. Summarize or it will be ignored.
And I predict that Christianity itself will be increasingly attacked and denigrated as not politically (or socially) correct.

Like nonchristians have always been. Christians will not be attacked and denigrated. They will just be marginalized and have no one but themselves to blame.

we believe that humans are incapable of achieving the right morality in and of themselves.

How do you explain the billions of moral people that don't believe in your mythology?

.and I am guessing that you will demand evidence and facts to back up my assertion.

You didn't say anything that could even be backed with evidence and facts. Why would I demand them?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 30 of 308 (866413)
11-10-2019 5:55 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Phat
11-10-2019 4:40 PM


Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
The only thing that we need to fear is God. We are commanded to love even our enemies.

We don't need your preaching. Take it to church.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 31 of 308 (866414)
11-10-2019 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Faith
11-10-2019 5:32 PM


Seems Faith agrees with Prager's hate
I find it quite telling that you have made no real attempt to show Prager is not a racist, does not spout hate against people of islam, lgbqt people and women.
Either you have nothing to defend him with or you feel he does not need defending and agree with the vile hatred he spews.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 33 of 308 (866419)
11-10-2019 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Chiroptera
11-10-2019 7:06 PM


Re: Nice hate piece hit job on liberalism
He is a known ****, charlatan and grifter.

Sebastian Gorka: 5 Fast Facts You Need to


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Theodoric
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Message 34 of 308 (866420)
11-10-2019 10:06 PM


More on Gorka the Nazi
Yes Faith. All evidence shows he is a Nazi.
quote:
research by the Forward has revealed that Gorka’s use of a special lower-case “v.” insignia in his signature, which the Vitézi Rend allows only sworn members to use, goes back much further than previously known.
In articles he published in 1998, when he was 28 years old, and then in 1999, Gorka signed his name “Sebestyén L. v. Gorka,” using the Hungarian honorific abbreviation for “Vitez,” which is reserved exclusively for sworn members of the Vitézi Rend order.

EXCLUSIVE: Sebastian Gorka’s Ties To Nazi-Allied Group Stretch Back Decades

What I find interesting is that Faith is willing to put aside her loathing for Catholics as long as the Catholic advocates the same hate she does. I guess morals are fungible to her.
Seb is a deeply committed Catholic.

quote:
Gorka’s ideas about radical Islam began with his father’s fight against the communists in his native Hungary and his deep Catholic faith.

The original article is behind the WaPo paywall so I linked to this analysis of the article. There is a link to the original article.
https://www.getreligion.org/...-on-islam-a-bit-too-realistic

In case that is not enough evidence of his catholicism.

quote:
Gorka married Pennsylvania native Katharine Fairfax Cornell on July 6, 1996, in St. Michael's Roman Catholic Church, Sopron, Hungary

Sebastian Gorka - Wikipedia

This will be an important thing to keep in mind when Faith attacks catholics.

Edited by Admin, : Fix links to have proper titles. The Get Religion link didn't get a title because that site has blocked access from EvC Forum.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 38 of 308 (866430)
11-11-2019 9:02 AM
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11-11-2019 5:34 AM


Re: Seems Faith agrees with Prager's hate
LOL.

via GIPHY


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 39 of 308 (866431)
11-11-2019 9:05 AM
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11-11-2019 5:34 AM


Re: Seems Faith agrees with Prager's hate
WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHICH IS WHAT THE LEFT IS DOING, OUGHT TO BE PROSECUTED AS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

So you think I should be charged with a criminal offense? What charge would it be?
Do you understand the concept of self awareness at all? Cognitive dissonance? Batshittery?


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 44 of 308 (866441)
11-11-2019 11:51 AM
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11-11-2019 10:16 AM


Re: The Populist Mindset
many of us resent being placed as just another one of many belief systems.

And that is a classic definition of white, christian privilege Tough shit.

You see it all as a myth because you fall for the mythicists position.

I fell for nothing. I followed the evidence to where it leads. As a reasoning, critical thinking person I have never had any belief in a god or the supernatural.

Your own holy book agrees.

quote:
When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways.

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 13:11 - New Revised Standard Version

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 46 of 308 (866452)
11-11-2019 2:39 PM
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11-11-2019 5:26 AM


Re: More on Gorka the Nazi
Ok you attack Catholics that don't advocate as much hate as you would like. Ok. Got it.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 54 of 308 (866491)
11-12-2019 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Hyroglyphx
11-12-2019 2:10 AM


Re: Promoting Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.

So basically you are saying you come here to ***** the libs?
So whose boot do I lick? Whose ass do I kiss?

You really think that we should not be able to respond to the bile spewed by you and Faith? We should take it because anything else is repressing your free expression?
Grow up. Put on your big boy pants.
You need to hang out at 8chan with all the other alt righters.

have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.

I see that the concept of self awareness continues to be lost on you. So in your mind the first half of this sentence was not spewing invective?

How about we do the same thing here that Percy did with, I think, Marc9000, on another thread. You post an example of a "left-leaning ideologue" exercising their "license to spew invective". I will follow with an example of a wing nut or alt-righter doing the same or worse. I tell you what. I will make it easy for you to win this game. You can use all the left wingers you want. I will limit myself to just you, Faith and Marc9000. The peanut gallery will be able to assist.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 66 of 308 (866515)
11-12-2019 11:47 AM
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11-12-2019 10:17 AM


Re: Promoting Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
Somebody has a guilty conscience! I didn't drop a single name! But, hey, if the boot fits, aye.... amirite?

You really think you made some sort of point and exposed me about something? You called out everyone that is not a hard right nut job. Yes, I admit I am not a hard right nut job. I think that is quite obvious. Let's look at what you posted.

hyro writes:

EvC has basically always been a huge echo chamber and circle jerk for left-leaning ideologues certain of their righteousness. The boot-licking, ass-kissing, lap dogs around here (of which there are many) have license to spew whatever invective they please while you seem to have a different set of rules.


Yup. That is just about everyone, except you, Faith and Marc9000. Yeah, you really burned me. Actually, I think you did what the kids call a self-pwn.
Good job also on keeping up your tradition of not responding to what people actually write.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 68 of 308 (866517)
11-12-2019 11:54 AM
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11-12-2019 11:39 AM


Re: Irony
Because you refuse to consider anything that threatens your worldview. No matter the amount of facts and evidence presented.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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