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Author Topic:   Dominant Force in West Today According to Dennis Prager is Fear of Left
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Message 1 of 308 (866363)
11-10-2019 11:03 AM


Prager's Original Article
Phat suggested the following piece by Dennis Prager might be the basis of a new thread so since nobody else had posted it yet I thought I would. At first the title didn't sound valid, but then I read it and now think it gets at the white-*** center of what is wrong in America today, how the ****, the ******* ****, is acting just **** its models in Marxism, *********, and *********, using ************ tactics against ordinary people to shut them up and drive them out of the ****** square, which is causing conservatives to *** low for fear of what they will do to them. I recently posted an example of this in the accusations against Sebastian Gorka and his daughter in Message 3372 on the Right Side of the News thread.

But I think Prager nails it:

By Dennis Prager

The dominant force in America and many other Western countries today is fear of the ****.

This is a result of the fact that the most dynamic religion of the past 100 years has been neither Christianity nor Islam. It has been *******. Whoever does not recognize this does not understand the contemporary world.

******* — in its incarnations, such as Marxism, ********* and *********; expressed through egalitarianism, environmentalism and feminism; in its denigration of capitalism and Western civilization, especially America and Israel; in its supplanting of Christianity and Judaism; through its influence on Christianity and Judaism; in its celebration of race; and in its replacing of reason with romanticism — has almost completely taken over the news and entertainment media and institutions of education.

There is a largely (though not entirely) nonviolent reign of ideological terror in America. In almost every area of ****, people fear antagonizing the ****.

Last week, before my speech at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, a man employed by the university (I will not say in what department) walked over to me, looked around to see whether anyone was watching and whispered in my ear, “I’m a conservative.”

This happens just about everywhere I speak. People whisper — yes, whisper — that they are conservative or they support Trump. The last time I experienced people looking around to check whether they were seen speaking to me was with dissidents in the Soviet Union.

People call my radio show from all over the country to say that their fellow musicians, nurses, teachers or employees do not know that they are conservative, let alone that they support the president.

I have called contemporary conservatives in America Marranos, the name given during the 15th-century Spanish Inquisition to Jews who hid their Judaism while appearing to be Catholics, lest they be persecuted. I do not compare the consequences: Losing one’s friends or employment is not the same as losing one’s home or one’s ****. But otherwise, the label is apt.

Because of my widely covered conducting of the Santa Monica Symphony Orchestra at the Walt Disney Concert Hall last summer, members of some of the most prestigious orchestras in America have opened up to me, telling me they are conservative but would never reveal this fact to their fellow musicians. They fear either losing their position or, more ******, being ******** ostracized.

Why are so many Democrats shocked when a Republican is elected president? Because, as they themselves say, they “don’t know anyone” who voted for the Republican. The primary reason for this is the people in their **** who voted for Donald Trump — professional colleagues, and even friends and relatives — are afraid to tell them.
There are two reasons the **** labels most conservatives and all Trump supporters “white supremacists,” “neo-Nazis” and “racists.” One is to defeat conservatives without having to defeat conservative ideas. The other is to instill fear: Speak out and you will suffer the consequences.

Parents call my radio show and ask what they should tell their children at college when they ask whether they should risk receiving a lower grade for divulging their conservative politics in a paper or on an exam.

It is becoming more and more common for ******* mobs to gather in front of a conservative’s home, ****** epithets at the conservative’s family members and vandalize the home. Just last week, the Associated Press reported: “Protesters are targeting the northern Virginia home of the National Rifle Association’s top lobbyist … Chris Cox … as well as his wife’s nearby decorating business. … Libby Locke, a lawyer for the Cox family, said the vandalism included spraying fake blood and defacing the home with stickers.”

****-wing student mobs routinely take over the offices of university deans, professors and even presidents. The few non-****-wing professors on any campus understand their ***** will be made ********* if they speak out. The widely reported case of ******* biology professor Bret Weinstein at Evergreen State College in Washington is directly on point.

In May 2017, professor Weinstein was surrounded by about 50 ****-wing students, who screamed curses at him outside of his classroom for refusing to participate in an event during which white people were asked to leave the campus for a day.

On May 24, 2017, Weinstein tweeted: “the police told me I am not safe on campus. They can not protect me.”

Within a few months, ****-wing students and the ****-wing Evergreen administration made **** so ********* for the ******** ******* professor he **** the university.

Since the **** began spreading the *** that a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, shot a black youth because he, **** most police officers, is a racist, police officers in many cities have feared taking proactive measures to prevent violent crime in black neighborhoods. They fear the ****-wing mob known as the news media will ruin their reputation and end their career.

In the recent case of a Philadelphia Starbucks manager who asked two black men to purchase something before giving them the code to the restroom, Starbucks immediately appeased the ****-wing mob. The company didn’t wait until any facts came out; it simply abandoned the manager and announced it would close every U.S. store one day in May to educate all Starbucks employees about “unconscious bias.”

These are only a few examples of the ****-wing ************ that dominates much of American ****.

It does so in large measure because ******** are either too afraid to confront the **** or they don’t understand that the American ****, not the American right, is the mortal enemy of **********.

This column was originally posted on Townhall.com.

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Faith
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Message 4 of 308 (866373)
11-10-2019 12:31 PM
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11-10-2019 11:34 AM


Re: ********* Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
I have no control over the asterisks, Phat, Percy put them there and he objects when I use misspellings to get around them..

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Faith
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Message 12 of 308 (866393)
11-10-2019 3:37 PM
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11-10-2019 2:27 PM


Re: fear of the **** is a bunch of malarkey
If you have peeked at the asterisked words, then tell me which of them are not polite and civil.

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Message 13 of 308 (866395)
11-10-2019 4:04 PM
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11-10-2019 2:16 PM


Re: Nice **** piece hit job on liberalism
.. At first the title didn't sound valid, but then I read it and now think it gets at the whitehot center of what is wrong in America today, how the ****, the Liberal ****, is acting just **** its models in Marxism, Communism and *********, using intimidation tactics against ordinary people to shut them up and drive them out of the public square, which is causing conservatives to *** low for fear of what they will do to them. …

Could you actually substantiate any of this codswallop?

I thought Prager did a pretty good job of showing some of the threats. I'd add the beating up of a guy right after the election because he'd voted for Trump; the hounding of Republicans out of restaurants; the intimidation and accusation of racism of the kid wearing the MAGA hat minding his own business after a pro **** event; the physical violence by Antifa on campuses when conservatives are scheduled to speak. I did mention the *********** of Sebastian Gorka and his daughter, calling him a Nazi yet, someone who had lived under Nazism and finally was able to escape from it.

If you mean being intimidated into silence, well yes that's everywhere, Prager notes some of it. I'd be afraid to wear a MAGA hat in public, a lot of people are.

I am always amused when people think the ultimate insult is to call liberal thinking religious.
Doesn't that imply that all religions are bad and need to be *****? LOL.

Seems to me just to say it's not a ******** position, it's based on belief or feeling. I thought it interesting that Prager called the **** romanticism, wish he'd expanded on that.

Obviously this broad paint brush pile of **** and ******** will appeal to people that feel that liberals need to even more intimidated on radio, in print, and on tv.

Liberals aren't intimidated anywhere, they are in-your-face in the street, on the campus, certainly in print and on TV, what on earth are you talking about.

Well, Prager was right on but of course nobody here is going to notice.

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Message 18 of 308 (866400)
11-10-2019 4:13 PM
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11-10-2019 3:12 PM


Re: Prager is a racist, homophobic, islamophobic and a misogynist
I was actually going to try to answer your vile post, then realized that the *********** you smear Prager with and me as well, calling him a "vile piece of shit" is so low even by ******* standards, that I'm going to snub you instead.

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Message 20 of 308 (866402)
11-10-2019 4:17 PM
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Re: Nice **** piece hit job on liberalism
Sorry, he lived under Communism but his family lived under Nazism. OR perhaps he was simply saying it's the same thing, both are totalitarian oppressive systems.

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Message 23 of 308 (866405)
11-10-2019 4:28 PM
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11-10-2019 4:11 PM


Re: Nice **** piece hit job on liberalism
The right does not threaten and intimidate and actually beat people up. You name people with conservative opinions **** rush Limbaugh, Fox, Prager himself and imply they would do that? What ****** are you living on: I was an atheist for years, living in both liberal and conservative areas and never felt the slightest bit threatened.

I'm ********* with all of you.


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Message 28 of 308 (866411)
11-10-2019 5:32 PM


THE RIGHT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS VIOLENT WAS FOX, LIMBAUGH AND PRAGER AND I RESPONDED THAT THE RIGHT IS NOT VIOLENT AND THEY ARE NOT.

I CONSIDER IT SO ********** THAT ANY OF YOU LABEL PRAGER AND OTHER ORDINARY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AS RACISTS, HOMOPHOBES AND SO ON I AM GOING TO GET OFF THIS THREAD. THE **** IS **********. SO SUSPEND ME. PLEASE. PRAGER IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT, THE WHOLE PC LABELING MANIA IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTIMIDATION AND SILENCING PEOPLE.

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Message 35 of 308 (866425)
11-11-2019 5:26 AM
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11-10-2019 10:06 PM


Re: More on Gorka the Nazi
I DON'T "ATTACK CATHOLICS" I ATTACK THE PAPACY AND THE PAGAN DOCTRINES OF THE RCC, AND YOU KNOW IT.l I CONSIDER ORDINARY CATHOLICS TO BE VICTIMS OF THEIR LEADERSHIP.

AND GORKA IS A SOLID CONSERVATIVE.

AND YOU ARE ******* PRAGER RIGHT.

MAY ALL THE TRUTH COME OUT SOON.

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Message 36 of 308 (866426)
11-11-2019 5:34 AM
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11-10-2019 6:33 PM


Re: Seems Faith agrees with Prager's ****
I'M NOT GOING TO DEFEND A BLAMELESS MAN I'VE READ AND HEARD FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES FROM THE LIKES YOU YOU WHO ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE SAYS THE **** DOES, CALL PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE ALL THOSE FOUL NAMES AS AN ************ TACTIC, THE STRATEGY OF COMMUNISM AND FASCISM BOTH, HAVING NO PLACE IN OUR REPUBLIC. iT IS YOU WHO SPEW **** ******, NOT PRAGER. THE **** IS THE MOST EVIL THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO THIS COUNTRY. AS PRAGER SAYS IT IS THE ENEMY OF LIBERALISM, MORE THAN CONSERVATIVES ARE. WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHICH IS WHAT THE **** IS DOING, OUGHT TO BE PROSECUTED AS A ******** OFFENSE.

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Message 45 of 308 (866444)
11-11-2019 1:02 PM
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11-11-2019 10:32 AM


Re: ********* Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
I have no control over the asterisks, Phat, Percy put them there and he objects when I use misspellings to get around them..

Explain the origins of its use, please, because its so distractingly annoying that it takes away from your central message.

Percy ******* words of his own choice if he doesn't **** the way I use them somewhere or other. Since I have no idea where that might be or why he objects I don't know the origin. He doesn't seem to care if he destroys the possibility of *************, he's just out to punish me or whoever else he gives the same treatment. The words are generally ordinary English words, not *********** or insulting words. In general however he does seem to have an ideological bent, punishing words that represent the political view he opposes. I'd rather be ********* myself.


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Message 51 of 308 (866476)
11-12-2019 2:28 AM
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11-12-2019 2:10 AM


Re: ********* Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
To be fair, he's done the same to some others here, but not on so many words and usually just on clearly insulting words **** "troll." In my case he makes it impossible to say ordinary things. Yes, the Peek function solves the problem but having to use it can be an annoyance too.

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Message 53 of 308 (866478)
11-12-2019 2:35 AM
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Re: ********* Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
I agree, but the whole method has no deterrence value anyway. If I don't know why a particular ordinary word got ******** I can't very well change the way I used it originally that he objected to. The effect is merely annoying, and more to the reader than to me.

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Message 57 of 308 (866505)
11-12-2019 11:14 AM
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Re: ********* Cautiously. Topic Will Be Moderated.
Oh aren't you cleverly devious. Or course you're right, we couldn't be right, oh no, that's the EvC ***** ****. Of course you're right.

No "we" are NOT all outsiders and you know it. Hyro was using the term correctly. But you all know how to twist anything to make it fit your own POV. Cleverness in the service of obfuscation and ideological position.l And you are ************ good at it. Are you proud of that? Oh probably you are.

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Message 64 of 308 (866513)
11-12-2019 11:39 AM
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Re: Irony
I wonder why I doubt this report.

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