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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
How could I ever have made any argument? Its all belief. There is no objective evidence.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Faith has these ideas and I had to search for someone who agrees with her online. Personally I'm not that extreme. God's will will be done on earth until the end comes. If He wishes to use the Left or the Right to bring us down so be it. Still, we will be judged on how we respond. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given. Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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Faith Member Posts: 33870 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
I didnj't write that, Phat, it's from the OP article I posted by Dennis Prager. I thought he did a great job of putting his finger on an important trvth about the state of things today but I did not write it. So you disagree with Prager, fine.
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ringo Member Posts: 17665 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
And why not?
But you're the one who says the message isn't important.
A large part of that teaching is love thine enemy: quote:How can you love your enemies if you leave them out in the cold?
According to Matthew, it pretty much is. "If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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Theodoric Member Posts: 6879 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Those are in no way analogous. The things you used as examples are destructive behaviors. Guess it shows how you feel about those who do not have your beliefs.
If that were my daughter, I would still love her. Guess your god dude wouldn't. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member Posts: 17665 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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How would you stop her? Teenagers do those things. You can't physically stop them. You could kick them out of the house, which seems to be what you're suggesting. Most human parents try to be a good example - your God might want to try that. And most human parents try to make their children aware of the consequences of their actions. Tell them not to eat the fruit and the first thing they'll do is eat the fruit - and then they'll have the knowledge of good and evil. "If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Im not talking about loving her or not...obviously you would love her. Im talking about disciplining her and setting some standards. We should expect no less from God. Many unbelievers cant get past the idea of an autocratic OT God who slaughters innocents. For believers, however, the God Who is (as we see Him, anyway) is a stern yet loving Father. He won't let her bring the boyfriend to stay the night, but He will not boot her out the door for making mistakes. Think of Heaven as the next home after this life and think of what a Father would consider when adopting kids. You don't just pick anyone. (Likely sounds too exclusive for you inclusivists)
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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ringo Member Posts: 17665 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
You pick the one that needs a home. Often that is the one with behaviour problems. "If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you...." -- Rudyard Kipling
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
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Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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Theodoric Member Posts: 6879 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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As the father of two adopted kids, I find this comment and attitude abhorrent. Do you think adopting is like going to a car dealership and picking out the car that best suits you? You adopt the child that needs you and that you need. The one at the children's home with disabilities and behavioral issues that has stolen your heart. Or the one that is placed with you as a foster child because his mother is addicted to drugs. You don't pick the one that you think you can most bend to your will or that will follow your instructions the best. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13371 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
To be fair, I have never had kids. So I apologize for any offense.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " ~"We, humans, are engaged in an ongoing war of ideologies. I see it in this microcosm of EvC Forum just as I see it in the governments and attitudes of people throughout the world. Take your pick: Oppression or Seduction . "~Thugpreacha You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo “As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”
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Theodoric Member Posts: 6879 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
That is no excuse for your abhorrent comment.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Faith Member Posts: 33870 From: Nevada, USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.2 |
Why can't you atheists get it right? Zeus and Thor and Horus were all local gods, tribal gods, whereas the God of the Byble is universal, recognized as universal. As far as which is most "llkely," who knows how llkely anything is after it's been processed through the atheist mind.
And I have another pet peeve to bring up. Why can't anyonje get it straight, and in this case even some Christians forget it, that we are not"by nature" selfish and competitive and greedy and murderous and whatecver other evll qualities you want to impute to us. All that developed in us at the Fall, you know, when the snake told us we wouldn't die but be as gods when we ate the fruit we were told not to eat. We're now sinners and now subject to disase and death as a result. And that's not normal either, death and disease I mean, all that is the result of the Fall. At least if you're going to keep putting down Christianity you should put it down for what it actually says. And Pascal said that by the way. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member Posts: 31766 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.6 |
Have you actually ever read the Bible Faith? There is no Fall in Genesis 2&3 and the God character in Genesis 2&3 said we did become like Gods and neither Adam or Eve died or even died some Spiritual Death. Stop misrepresenting what is actually written in the Bible and marketing the made up story of your cult. Edited by jar, : fix sub-title
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