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Message 42 of 952 (873615)
03-17-2020 5:07 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by Chiroptera
03-17-2020 2:18 PM


Re: A Question About Masks
Does the guy in the video recommend healthy people walk around wearing N95 face masks?

No. Dr. Michael Osterholm is saying quite the opposite. The N95 is for healthcare workers in constant close proximity to the infection, not for the general public out on the street. He goes further and says the usual surgical mask we see in public everywhere is not very effective at stopping *you* breathing in the droplets of someone's cough but can be somewhat effective if you are sick as it helps keep *your* cough from spewing out diseased droplets like a shotgun to everyone within 6-8 feet of you.

Is he making recommendations that contradict the official guidelines published by the established representatives of the scientific community?

No. As a member in good standing of that infectious disease discipline Dr. Osterholm helped write those guidelines many years ago in anticipation of the next bug showing up. He, along with the rest of the community, were ignored by this administration until it became clear to the Orange Bastard that his presidency was teetering on the brink of utter failure for being so stupid and slow with COVID-19.

Dr. Osterholm is one of the leading good guys in this disaster.


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Message 91 of 952 (873828)
03-19-2020 11:50 PM
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03-19-2020 9:03 PM


Re: A Question About Masks
made some sentences a tad less cromulent

And, my friend, it did not go unappreciated.

Edited by AZPaul3, : made this sentences a tad more cromulent


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Message 100 of 952 (873884)
03-20-2020 8:46 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by Percy
03-20-2020 3:37 PM


Re: My Trip to the Grocery Store
Since you are in that older demographic I suggest that if you do not wake up in the morning with a headache and a dry cough that you use bleach and alcohol in a two-to-one mix, wipe down every place you touched when you got home the day before then burn down to house.

If you do wake up with a headache and a dry cough then use bleach and alcohol in a two-to-one mix, wipe down every place you touched when you got home the day before, burn down the house and move into the nearest ICU.

Of course, if you don't wake up the next morning then none of the above will be productive so nevermind.


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Message 104 of 952 (873892)
03-20-2020 10:25 PM
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03-20-2020 9:44 PM


Re: My Trip to the Grocery Store
better than mixing bleach and ammonia

I had alcohol on/in my mind. I missed that one. Talk about squandered opportunities.

Just to make it official ... no, don't do either. This was a joke. It was only a joke.

If it was meant to be serious it would have come from reddit or twitter or Alex Jones.


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Message 115 of 952 (873920)
03-21-2020 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Phat
03-21-2020 5:22 AM


Re: My Trip to the Grocery Store
Could the rapture be far off?

It has been indefinitely postponed because of COVID-19.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 130 of 952 (873965)
03-22-2020 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by Chiroptera
03-22-2020 10:56 AM


Re: About masks, some examples of extraordinarily bad advice
That's a tough one.

Well, you did ask, so ...

In the “working age” demographic, whatever that is, COVID-19 will present mild to moderate symptoms for the majority of those who get infected. I’m pretty sure they would rather be exposed, and maybe catch a dose that puts them down for a few days, than lose their only means of income. If sick days are available if needed and quitting is not an option then being at work when not sick is a no-brainer. But that doesn’t help much if there is no job there because Chiroptera and AZPaul3 and a few million others have dropped out of the marketplace.

Those workers who are not sick, the vast majority of them, have no employment without you.

They can always practice social-distancing and take other precautions to minimize infecting others, and themselves, while in public.

I would say, “Order away.”

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 135 of 952 (873976)
03-22-2020 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Percy
03-22-2020 7:08 PM


Re: FEMA Director Refuses to be Nailed Down
AbE: Two other people on the program have now mentioned the stockpile, so I guess it must exist.

It's real.

Why Even A Huge Medical Stockpile Will Be Of Limited Use Against COVID-19


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Message 137 of 952 (873980)
03-23-2020 1:08 AM
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03-22-2020 9:19 PM


Re: FEMA Director Refuses to be Nailed Down
Don't suppose they have a few million rolls of toilet paper in the stockpile.

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Message 150 of 952 (874000)
03-23-2020 11:54 AM
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03-23-2020 10:53 AM


Re: FEMA Director Refuses to be Nailed Down
Also, since the govt is ordering up millions of masks, that is using practically all the manufacturing capacity of the nation. Their priority, as it should be, will be to provide these supplies to hospitals, military.

You and I will not see another N95 or even a standard surgical mask for many months to come.


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Message 237 of 952 (874145)
03-25-2020 7:19 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Tangle
03-25-2020 5:19 PM


Re: interesting article:
I hope she was strong and healthy going in. That would be the best scenario.

Remember ninja proteins? Give her a lot from all of us.


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Message 243 of 952 (874163)
03-26-2020 12:44 AM


Stayin' Inside

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Message 256 of 952 (874219)
03-26-2020 8:20 PM
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03-26-2020 7:04 PM


Re: We're the new record holder!



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Message 377 of 952 (874421)
04-01-2020 2:02 PM
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04-01-2020 12:41 PM


Re: the relief check
SCAM!

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Message 384 of 952 (874428)
04-01-2020 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 382 by jar
04-01-2020 3:31 PM


Re: the relief check
Why? Why are so many folk so unbelievably gullible?

How can folk be so utterly stupid?

They voted for Trump, didn't they?

When you realize how stupid the average American actually is, remember that half the population is stupider than that.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 395 of 952 (874441)
04-02-2020 10:16 AM
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04-02-2020 7:48 AM


Re: the relief check
Ah, shall we range and play average, mean, median and mode?

Sure, why not.

The mean, median, and mode walk into a Republican bar

The median says "Wow, this place is really skewed to the right!"

The mode was taller than everyone else and got the most looks.

Meanwhile, the mean was overly influenced by outliers and got high off to the side.


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