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Message 8 of 952 (871417)
02-02-2020 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by RAZD
02-02-2020 11:12 AM


Re: US capability to fight virus jeopardised by Trumpski
Don’t worry, you can drink bleach!

I wish I was kidding but apparently the QAnon loons are promoting “Miracle Mineral Solution” as a cure. Which is basically bleach.

This sort of lunacy is dangerous.


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Message 13 of 952 (871452)
02-03-2020 11:06 AM
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02-03-2020 9:32 AM


Re: US capability to fight virus jeopardised by Trumpski
Jason Sather has quite an online presence and seems to have already been an MMS booster. So, I don’t doubt his part in it.

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Message 109 of 952 (873906)
03-21-2020 7:04 AM


Interview with Larry Brilliant
Larry Brilliant is an epidemiologist who helped eradicate smallpox.

Wired

The whole epidemiological community has been warning everybody for the past 10 or 15 years that it wasn't a question of whether we were going to have a pandemic like this. It was simply when.

So maybe this is the wake-up call we needed. Nasty as coronavirus is, there are worse diseases out there. Maybe we’re lucky it isn’t much worse.

But let’s not be complacent.

It's the most dangerous pandemic in our lifetime.

But it’s not all bad news

By slowing it down or flattening it, we're not going to decrease the total number of cases, we're going to postpone many cases, until we get a vaccine—which we will, because there's nothing in the virology that makes me frightened that we won’t get a vaccine in 12 to 18 months.

And a suggestion on what the US should be doing

But the South Korea model is one that we could follow. Unfortunately, it requires doing the proportionate number of tests that they did—they did well over a quarter of a million tests. In fact, by the time South Korea had done 200,000 tests, we had probably done less than 1,000.

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Message 225 of 952 (874130)
03-25-2020 3:01 PM
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03-25-2020 6:05 AM


Re: The Quinine Drugs Problematic Miracle Cure?
Bloomberg is reporting that hydroxychloroquine is no more effective than the standard treatment.

The study involved just 30 patients. Of the 15 patients given the malaria drug, 13 tested negative for the coronavirus after a week of treatment. Of the 15 patients who didn’t get hydroxychloroquine, 14 tested negative for the virus.

Four patients given the medicine developed diarrhea and signs of potential liver damage, compared with three getting conventional treatment.

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Message 235 of 952 (874141)
03-25-2020 5:46 PM
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03-25-2020 5:26 PM


Re: interesting article:
quote:
What is the wait for?

7 days is the self-isolation period for people showing symptoms. 14 days for anyone living with them - if they don’t get sick.

Two people at work have it. We were nearly all working from home anyway, but the office is closed and everyone has been warned to be extra careful in case they were infected.


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Message 246 of 952 (874168)
03-26-2020 9:07 AM
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03-26-2020 8:50 AM


Re: interesting article:
quote:
Does this mean the UK believes a person is contagious for only 7 days after the first display of symptoms?

It seems so.


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Message 253 of 952 (874214)
03-26-2020 5:50 PM
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03-26-2020 5:38 PM


Re: Not Covering Trump
“Anyone who wants a test gets a test” is a sick joke

Coronavirus: One case lays bare America's testing failure (BBC)

A retired doctor wanted a test. She had the symptoms.

9 March - visits family doctor

10 March - denied a coronavirus test

15 March - drives hour to testing site - Denied test again

17 March - sent to hospital emergency room - Finally gets coronavirus test

23 March - test results delayed

That’s two weeks without result.


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Message 319 of 952 (874330)
03-29-2020 10:16 AM
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03-29-2020 9:58 AM


Re: China's responsibility
Don’t forget that the Trump administration sacked the guys who would have been managing the situation. With Trump laughably claiming that if they were needed he could replace them.

And he cut the CDC funding for dealing with epidemics abroad.

Claiming that he blocked travel from China is all very well, but it wasn’t enough and never was going to be.


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Message 336 of 952 (874366)
03-30-2020 2:06 AM
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03-29-2020 2:21 PM


Re: Chloroquin and Hydroxychloroquin
The study claiming that hydroxychloroquine is effective was badly flawed, and rushed out without real peer review.The Register

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix link code.


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Message 340 of 952 (874373)
03-30-2020 10:51 AM
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03-30-2020 8:31 AM


Re: The Latest US Coronavirus Graph
The increase per day looks roughly constant, so it might be a bottleneck in testing. Which is plausible enough to be worrying.

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Message 367 of 952 (874410)
04-01-2020 12:42 AM
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03-31-2020 9:19 PM


Re: Chloroquin and Hydroxychloroquin
I’ve posted reports on two trials.

One found no benefit Message 225

The other was rushed out without proper peer review Message 336


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Message 390 of 952 (874436)
04-02-2020 9:01 AM
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04-02-2020 8:30 AM


Re: The Latest US Coronavirus Graph
quote:
I think it's safe to assume that the death rate data is more solid since they have a baseline of actual deaths, while the number of infections is a function of testing, which we know is incomplete since they're still making people jump through hoops to get tested in many places.

Deaths are probably also understated, but I think that more of those with severe symptoms will be tested, so the count of deaths will be more accurate than that of infections.

The infection rate still looks roughly linear, just at a higher rate, so I suspect it is still largely due to restrictions on testing.


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Message 416 of 952 (874472)
04-03-2020 1:47 AM
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04-02-2020 8:30 AM


Re: The Latest US Coronavirus Graph
According to Ars Technica testing in the US has been hovering at about 100,000 a day since 27th March.

The increase in reported infection rate is not due to more testing, but due to a greater proportion of positive results.

This is very bad news for the US.

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Message 499 of 952 (874849)
04-11-2020 4:24 AM


White House Chaos
From The New Yorker

What followed over the next two weeks was an inside glimpse of the dysfunction emanating from Trump’s Washington in the midst of the pandemic, a crash course in the breakdown that has led to nurses in one of the wealthiest countries in the world wearing garbage bags to protect themselves from a virus whose outbreak the President downplayed until it was too late to prepare for its consequences.

Eric Ries, a Silicon Valley CEO had heard that tech executives were being asked to help deal with the crisis. He wanted to volunteer to help source medical equipment - from masks to ventilators. He set out on his own initiative and found voluntary groups working on the problem, and helped to get them working together. But how to get everything to where it was needed?

For ten days running, Ries was told that the Federal Emergency Management Agency would step in and take charge of distributing critical supplies, directing them to where they were most needed, but, as far as he could tell, it never happened. Kushner and his team had embedded at fema, along with a Navy rear admiral, John Polowczyk, to oversee the supply-chain crisis, but Ries managed only to speak with an aide to the admiral.

Worse still, the Federal stockpiles would not be released because they were for the Federal Government, not the States. (What does the Federal government need the stockpiles for if not to help the American people? Cuomo’s idea of sending ventilators to the places which need them and moving them on when the peak passes seems obviously sensible - and obviously best managed by the Federal Government)

What they did not foresee was that the federal government might never come to the rescue. They did not realize this was a government failure by design—not a problem to be fixed but a policy choice by President Trump that either would not or could not be undone

Donald Trump, of course refused to acknowledge the problems or take any responsibility.

Earlier this week, the office of the inspector general for the Department of Health and Human Services released a survey of three hundred and twenty-three hospitals in forty-six states, D.C., and Puerto Rico, and it found “widespread shortages of PPE,” and also of other equipment. After the report was released, Trump claimed it was “wrong,” tweeted that it was “Another Fake Dossier!,” and attacked the principal deputy I.G. who prepared it because she had also served during the Obama Administration. Trump, of course, omitted the fact that she is a career official who also served in the Clinton and George W. Bush Administrations.

And, nobody could have predicted this ?

All of this was predicted. On February 13th, the Center for Global Development, a nonpartisan Washington think tank, warned in a report about the “urgent but closing window” for the U.S. government to prepare, including specifically recommending an immediate review of the P.P.E. supply chain; the creation of a plan for distribution of supplies and the public communication of that plan; and the development of “options for addressing PPE shortfalls,”

Oops!

Just another reason why Trump is one of the worst presidents the US has ever had.


  
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Message 504 of 952 (874855)
04-11-2020 5:14 AM
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04-11-2020 4:59 AM


quote:
That site wants me to sign up to receive something from them.

Lots of sites do, in the same way. Just click the X to close the popup and read.


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