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caffeine
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Message 473 of 955 (874652)
04-07-2020 1:42 PM
Reply to: Message 468 by Percy
04-07-2020 9:56 AM


Re: How can countries reopen?
The articles describe vague containment strategies, like "protection for workers" and "restrictions" but doesn't say what those mean. Masks? Gloves? Hand sanitizer? Social distancing? More testing? All of them? Some of them? What?
Would you like the article to list the exact measures being taken in every jurisdiction?
For starters, almost nowhere is completely closed down. Millions of people are still going to work. Starting to ease restrictions put in place due to coronavirus can simply mean moving to the slightly less restrictive regulations in place in the country next door.
We are one of the countries cautiously reopening. This means that as of today people are allowed to take off their masks in order to run or cycle. It means that we just allowed a few more shops to reopen, and next week a few more (stationary shops, for example). It means that people are now allowed to leave the country if they need to for work, medical treatment, or family reasons - though they would be subject to two weeks quarantine on return.
I will not be going to back to the office for some time, as people whose work can be done with a laptop and a phone are going to be amongst the last to be allowed to return. Bars and restaurants all remain closed for now.
Restrictions are going to be slowly and gradually lifted. Should the rate of hospital admissions start to rise again, restrictions will be reimposed. They are working on implemented a more selective quarantine response in particular areas.
This is part of the 'dance' discussed in the article someone posted. We can't keep people locked up for a year or two until we have a vaccine. Here, at least, they're also hoping for more spread of the virus, so as to build up immunity amongst the general population.

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caffeine
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Message 562 of 955 (875132)
04-15-2020 7:34 AM
Reply to: Message 515 by dwise1
04-11-2020 5:17 PM


Re: The Latest US Coronavirus Graph
Speaking of which, what's happening in Russia? I haven't heard nor seen a single report from or about Russia.
Russia has imposed extremely severe restrictions, especially in Moscow where one of the worst outbreaks is. You need to apply for a permit to go further than walking distance from your front door.

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caffeine
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Message 566 of 955 (875190)
04-16-2020 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 564 by Percy
04-15-2020 9:56 AM


Re: The Six Foot Distance is Nonsense
The Six Foot Distance is Nonsense
It is silly to ridicule something as 'nonsense' simply because it does not completely eliminate all possibility of transmission. Completely eliminating all possibility of transmission is impossible, so if that is the only acceptable outcome there is no point trying anything.
You yourself go on to say that 6ft is better than 3ft, so it's not nonsense, is it? It helps to reduce the risk of transmission, which is the point.
You could pick a higher arbitrary number if you like, but that serve no purpose, since as we've all discovered it's hard enough to follow existing guidelines.
Thankfully, we're on the metric system, so the wonders of rounding to the nearest metre give us an extra 6" distance in official recommendations.

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caffeine
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Message 592 of 955 (875264)
04-19-2020 5:06 PM


Presidential immunity
Thought you'd like this one, Percy.
This is our President (at the head of the table) consulting a meeting of advisers:
They have their masks on, but note that they've been served sausage and cheese.
This took place a couple of weeks ago, but by that time it was already forbidden to meet in groups, and all work activities that could be done remotely had to be done remotely.
Obviously the President (who, it should be pointed out, has no real role to play in the management of this crisis) struggles with Webex and Zoom. He needs to be shown the graphs on paper. With sausage and cheese.
ABE: Why does this image not work? That's the correct url.
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caffeine
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Message 598 of 955 (875272)
04-20-2020 2:27 AM
Reply to: Message 594 by jar
04-19-2020 5:31 PM


Re: Presidential immunity
That's actually the Presidential summer residence. It probably has some fancier looking rooms in it:

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