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Message 871 of 890 (878267)
06-28-2020 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 870 by Phat
06-28-2020 12:14 PM


Re: Less than 25,000 U.S. deaths in June, with 3 days to go.
Phat writes:

You always say that the people will get what they want, but I dont think most of them know what they want (except to make this all go away) or what they even need.

There is no excuse for that except their own choices. If the want to remain willfully uninformed then they will get the result they desired.

The bill will get paid.


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Message 872 of 890 (878312)
06-28-2020 9:59 PM


Clarification on increased testing and cases.
I meant that the increased testing allows the infected to do something about the infection.

Self quarantine.

That equals less deaths.

The responses seemed to think I was talking about infection statistics this month being an orange compared to the apple infections that were from past months infection statistics. It MIGHT be that the apples and oranges factor is true with respect to the relative monthly infection rates, but I was looking at death rates.

I might have mixed several things though.

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Message 873 of 890 (878319)
06-28-2020 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 867 by NosyNed
06-28-2020 9:35 AM


Re: Less than 25,000 U.S. deaths in June, with 3 days to go.
Explain the 0.79 to 0.7 numbers. I actually have not been able to figure out which numbers you were talking about.

The deaths per million are presently at 392 per million in the US.

Texas is 80 per million.

Florida and Ohio are at 160, roughly.

Arizona is around 220.

New Jersey is 1700

New York 1600 deaths per million.

You said we would have 200,000 Covid deaths by Jan 1, 2021. We are already almost 129,000.


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Message 874 of 890 (878360)
06-29-2020 12:51 PM


Opening too early
‘It is really terrifying here’: CNN goes behind the scenes at Houston hospital flooded with COVID-19 patients

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“The last three weeks, I have seen more admissions and sicker patients than on the previous ten weeks,” explained Joseph Varon, the chief medical officer at the United Memorial Medical Center. “So it’s been an exponential increase on the severity of illness and in the number of cases we admit.”

Tanna Ingraham, an ICU nurse who works at the facility, told Marquez that she recently came down with the disease and warned people that it should be taken very seriously.

“I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy,” she said, before describing the intense pain she’s experiencing all over her body.



  
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Message 875 of 890 (878374)
06-29-2020 2:57 PM


we should have waited until October. people had to go to beaches and infect each other, etc.

we should have been locked down until October. now we're going through these phases of reopening, but when people start dying again, as they are now, they are going to relock the country anyway.


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Message 876 of 890 (878448)
06-30-2020 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 875 by a servant of Christ
06-29-2020 2:57 PM


Yep.

And the entire catastrophe is Trump’s doing.


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Message 877 of 890 (878521)
06-30-2020 9:38 PM
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06-28-2020 10:32 AM


Re: Less than 25,000 U.S. deaths in June, with 3 days to go.
Found the graph.

Little or no correlation between number of tests and number of cases.


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Message 878 of 890 (878529)
07-01-2020 7:47 AM


end of month summary.
We started June with 9 cases on the first.

We ended the month with yet another scary as Barr in a Bikini daily total of 440 new cases. Four Hundred and Forty cases in just one day.

Three thousand four hundred and seven cases in just this one month.

But wait, there's more. Yesterday we had eleven deaths from Covid-19. Eleven.

But WAIT there's even more good news. Instead of making masks mandatory Governor Abbott restricted all elective surgery to make more beds available.


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Message 879 of 890 (878544)
07-01-2020 11:08 AM
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07-01-2020 7:47 AM


Re: end of month summary.
Juanita Jean's | Texas Medical Center Stops Reporting COVID-19 Data

quote:
I’m hearing that Abbott built in a huge loophole in his shutdown policy to allow elective surgeries in TMC and affiliates as long as the hospitals have “enough capacity”. Apparently “enough capacity” is pretty damn vague. Methodist Hospital even sent out a “don’t worry, be happy” post on Thursday that they had plenty of room and elective surgeries (translated “very profitable”. As I’m sure is a complete coincidence, TMC simultaneously halted realtime reporting of COVID-19 case rates and ICU capacity utilization in Houston. Hmm.

Also Juanita Jean's | Texas Medical Center Now Censoring ICU and Hospital Capacity

ABE Texas’ Lt. Gov blasts Fauci as coronavirus surges in his state: ‘I don’t need his advice anymore’

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Message 880 of 890 (878575)
07-01-2020 9:39 PM


July begins.
July started with an additional 270 cases and three additional deaths. June 1 we had 9 cases so we are only starting the month at 30 times as many daily cases as last month.

Trump writes:

"And I think we're going to be very good with the coronavirus. I think that at some point that's going to sort of just disappear. I hope."

Well, not today.

Maybe tomorrow it will just disappear.

I hope.


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Message 881 of 890 (878579)
07-02-2020 12:18 AM


Just as July 3 is starting EST, under 131,000 deaths.
That means there were around 27.000 deaths in June.

The lowest since the modern monthly Corona era began in April 2020.

What will July bring?

I say ... more or less.

Remember where you heard it first.


  
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Message 882 of 890 (878609)
07-02-2020 10:28 AM


Pictures.
So here is just over a week in image format. Note the scale change as well as the relative size of the columns.

06-23

06-27

06-29

07-02


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Message 883 of 890 (878642)
07-02-2020 2:53 PM
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07-02-2020 10:28 AM


COVID 19 By The Numbers
That would seem to indicate an anomoly. Conspiracy theorists would jump at that one. Perhaps we are dealing with different viruses. Why would the youth be targeted so much higher...unless perhaps they are the ones socializing more and exposing themself to crowds. The old folk are scared silly and just stay home and wear masks even when walking outdoors.

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Message 884 of 890 (878651)
07-02-2020 4:37 PM
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07-02-2020 2:53 PM


Re: COVID 19 By The Numbers
I'm scared silly. I have every indicator for a really bad infection.

Whereas yoots have Covid-19 parties with a cash prize for the first person to show symptoms. Alabama students throwing 'COVID parties' to see who gets infected: Officials.


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Message 885 of 890 (878662)
07-02-2020 7:08 PM
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06-30-2020 9:38 PM


Re: Less than 25,000 U.S. deaths in June, with 3 days to go.
horrible legend. what is the fat red curve? the fat blue curve? i see a very tiny grey line with 2 definitions. scales have to marked clearly. this is a horrible graph.

"I'd rather be an American than a Trump Supporter."

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