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Covid-19 and religion.

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Message 15 of 143 (872689)
03-02-2020 10:48 AM 		Reply to: Message 4 by Phat
02-29-2020 3:01 PM

Re: The Sociological Implications Of Corvid-19
Phat writes:

Only an idiot would assume that God automatically cures us of every sickness and disease which comes our way.


Well, yes, that's one aspect of reality that even believers can see.
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Message 16 of 143 (872690)
03-02-2020 10:53 AM 		Reply to: Message 12 by Faith
03-02-2020 9:51 AM

Re: The Sociological Implications Of Corvid-19
Faith writes:

The drying effect of alcohol is a problem but coconut oil helps alleviate that and it's said to have antibacterial and antiviral properties too.


Piña Coladas.
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Message 58 of 143 (873202)
03-11-2020 11:43 AM 		Reply to: Message 41 by Chiroptera
03-10-2020 4:51 PM

Re: Inadequate containment of the virus
Chiroptera writes:

... there are going to be a lot of people working minimum wage jobs who'll get sick but decide the rent still needs to be paid and the kids need groceries and will go on into work.


And those are the people who will be interacting with the public - waiters, cashiers, etc.
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Message 64 of 143 (873222)
03-11-2020 3:36 PM 		Reply to: Message 63 by Faith
03-11-2020 3:32 PM

Re: Inadequate containment of the virus
Faith writes:

Trump is concerned to prevent the spread of the disease so he wants to keep it confined to the ship, and somehow you turn that into his not caring about the people on the ship?


It's one of those relative morality things. Do you let hundreds on the ship die to save thousands on land? But there's the added complication that you can also save most of the ones on the ship by getting them the hell off the ship.
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Message 66 of 143 (873225)
03-11-2020 3:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 65 by Faith
03-11-2020 3:47 PM

Re: Inadequate containment of the virus
Faith writes:

What HE had in mind...


Oh, come off it. Stop pretending you know what he had in mind. Even he doesn't know what he's going to think from one minute to the next.

Faith writes:

... CONFINING THE DISEASE TO PREVENT ITS SPREAD.


Which condemns the people confined to the ship.

Faith writes:

THAT'S WHAT A QUARANTINE IS, THAT'S WHAT IS NORMALLY DONE WITH INFECTIOOUS DISEASES.


No, people are not normally quarantined in an environment where everybody is likely to become infected.

Faith writes:

His motivations were the best...


You don't know his motivations.

Faith writes:

This constant vilifying of Trump....


I'm not villifying Trump.

I'm pointing out that his "plan" is not a good one. The planning should be left to people who know what they're doing.

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Message 68 of 143 (873232)
03-11-2020 4:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 67 by Faith
03-11-2020 4:00 PM

Re: Inadequate containment of the virus
Faith writes:

What he had in mind is what any normal person would have in mind who said what he said.


On the contrary, any normal person would recognize that keeping people bottled up in an incubator of disease is a bad idea. That's why other nations - e.g. Canada - have been working to get the people OFF the cruise ships and bring them home.
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Message 70 of 143 (873237)
03-11-2020 4:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 69 by Faith
03-11-2020 4:37 PM

Re: Inadequate containment of the virus
Faith writes:

I'm talking about what he actually said and how any normal person who said that would have meant that he wanted to prevent the spread of the virus.


But any normal person can see that that isn't the whole story. You can't just throw the cruise ship passengers under the bus.

Faith writes:

As I already said, if you want to bring up better solutions then fine, BUT THEY ARE A DIFFERENT SUBJECT.


For days the Canadian news has been nothing but plans to get the people off the ships. Trump has no excuse for not knowing about the better solutions. I don't see how that's a different subject.
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Message 85 of 143 (873312)
03-13-2020 1:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 84 by Faith
03-13-2020 1:09 PM

Re: A political side to it
Faith writes:

If the hubbub over the swine flu was so huge it's funny I don't remember it. A thousand people had died before Obama did anything about it....


It's especially "funny" that you don't remember something you could blame on Obama.
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