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Tangle
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Message 101 of 143 (873374)
03-15-2020 6:46 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by dwise1
03-15-2020 6:01 AM


Re: A political side to it
Please delete that dwise1

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 136 of 143 (875153)
04-15-2020 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 135 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 2:03 PM


Re: An Easter Miracle!
MtW writes:

Because under evolution, your atheist version of god has always been a useless, merciless, powerless bastard.

I'm going to regret this because your pattern of behaviour is to come here every couple of months, spew some errant nonsense spattered with fake and pseudo-philosophical garbage, pose around telling us how clever you are, then bugger off leaving a stinking mess of verbiage behind you.

But hey-ho; just for starters, atheists do not have any version of god.

Secondly, if a god created all this stuff while in a whimsical mood, he's not going to be called powerless by anyone - just utterly callous and uncaring. Merciless is a religious trope that no atheist would fall for.

Thirdly, ffs stop confusing atheism and evolution - you could at least give the impression of having a brain as well as a mouth.

I'm missing Faith already.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 139 of 143 (875164)
04-15-2020 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 2:49 PM


Re: An Easter Miracle!
MtW writes:

They have a strawman version of God.

'They' do not exist. You live in a weird outlier of a country - a modern, prosperous democracy with a primitive belief system still in place so your view of what an atheist is feels early 19th century to me and much of the rest of the Western world.

Atheists are just people; almost all of them never even think of god or participate in any of these discussions. God is not a version of anything, just like elves aren't. Those of us that get involved in discussions with weird people like you are exceptions. Probably just as weird in our own way. Just a damn site more rational.

But nothing I can say will change you mind about what's in atheist's minds. You need your devils. The vast majority of atheists never give you and your gods a second thought. They're non-existent and therefore irrelevant.

They're for all purposes one and the same thing.

This is pure idiocy. There are billions of believers of all sorts of religions that also accept evolution. But I suspect you'd call them all atheists too?

God never causes bad things, He only let's them occur as part of the fallen system.

Oh please... Neglect is just as big a crime.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 142 of 143 (875179)
04-15-2020 5:28 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by mike the wiz
04-15-2020 3:42 PM


Re: An Easter Miracle!
MtW writes:

No, this is out of context of what I was saying.

Yeh right. That'll be why you built your whole story around it.

No. That's a strawman fallacy Mr More Rational. My point was about how the evolutionary version of theism is basically just in 100% agreement with the materialist version meaning you can use Occam's razor to shave, "God" away.

So with theistic evolutions of various religions, basically it's to adopt a materialist version of history then add God like you add salt and vinegar.

"Idiocy" is just a question-begging-epithet, I am not an idiot, but it pleases you on some irrational, sinful level to call me things I am clearly not. This is a sample of atheist morality in my book, you simply don't care about the bad things you say to people, having a thick skin and a heart of stone.

More horse shit. You continue to conflate atheism and evolution; just stop it, it makes you and your arguments look idiotic. The fact that you do it deliberately and regularly just makes it culpable as well as stupid.

God does not, "neglect", we are told that God allows bad things to happen in the bible because of a sinful world.

Since when does 'we are told' amount to an argument? If you neglect your child and he dies you are as guilty of murder as if you'd shot him in the head.

I know atheists, my brother is one and we never even debate because unlike you he isn't an antagonist against Christians like you.

Whoopydo, you know an atheist! How exotic! You're making my point for me.

I know that, "atheist" is just a word, I know many types of, "atheists" and have come across many types. You are basically an anti-theist troll. You can't see what you are at all.

Like I said, most atheists don't give a hoot. Those that do hoot are few and a bit weird. I'm one of them. You're one of the other kind. Best to read what I say, not what you'd like me to say.

I feel no need to insult you and say that you are an idiot or have half a brain yet you call yourself the rationalist. To me the rationalist is the guy at EFF that doesn't behave in these ways. People like Popoi, Piasan, Goku. Those three atheists haven't attacked me in three years as much as you have today.

It takes all sorts Micky, if you come here with your chest puffed out spouting crap you're going to get all sorts of responses. I'm at the harsher end of primitive Christian loathing. I do actively detest your kind of false and warped Christianity. I think your ideas need to constantly laughed at for what they are, what they represent and the pure and dangerous ignorance that lies behind them. It's an industry.

Too bad if you don't like it, but you'll run away again soon, declaring victory over the heathen hoards.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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