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frako Member Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
All he meant was that he didn't want the numbers of the sick to increase in the country, that's why he preferred that they didn't get off the ship Yes thats the problem he does not care about the well being of the Americans onboard, he cares how the numbers look. Because thats all that happaened the number of infected increased by the number infected onboard, they where not allowed to spread the deiese to others.
d about people going to work, the way I hear it all he was saying was that the disease is very mild in most cases and doesn't require quarantine. Um you do know that there also people that have no symptoms and have the virus. Those have to be quarantined too. Beause just because that peron does not have symptoms it does not mean that the pople he will infect with the virus will have the same luck. What he should have aid or what any sane person would say is: if your feeling flue like symptoms do not go to work, do not go anywhere, and get tested immediately. Even if you as most who get this desiese are experiencing very mild symptoms others might not be so lucky. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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"Doc, it's only a scratch
And I'll be better, I'll be better, Doc, as soon as I am able" So when a young person has a mild case of covid-19 and goes about daily life and infects lost of older folk ...
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
All he meant was that he didn't want the numbers of the sick to increase in the country, that's why he preferred that they didn't get off the ship Yes thats the problem he does not care about the well being of the Americans onboard, he cares how the numbers look.Because thats all that happaened the number of infected increased by the number infected onboard, they where not allowed to spread the deiese to others. What? You guys are unbelievable. I can't fathom your thinking process. Trump is concerned to prevent the spread of the disease so he wants to keep it confined to the ship, and somehow you turn that into his not caring about the people on the ship? Only caring about "how the numbers LOOK?" What? You guys make no sense to me, there is something really really messed up abou how you think, at least when it comes to Trump. Trump has a concern to keep the virus from spreading and you turn that into something evil. Amazing.
d about people going to work, the way I hear it all he was saying was that the disease is very mild in most cases and doesn't require quarantine. Um you do know that there also people that have no symptoms and have the virus. Those have to be quarantined too. Beause just because that peron does not have symptoms it does not mean that the pople he will infect with the virus will have the same luck. What he should have aid or what any sane person would say is: if your feeling flue like symptoms do not go to work, do not go anywhere, and get tested immediately. Even if you as most who get this desiese are experiencing very mild symptoms others might not be so lucky. But all that is completely irrelevant to what he was sayhing and the context in which he was saying it. He was responding to the hysteria by noting that people would go to work with it because the symptoms are so mild they hardly even know they are sick. The point was only to try to calm down the hysteria that was building. He was not addressing the problem of contagion, he was only talking about the mildness of the disease in the context of the hysteria. Good grief, give the man a break once in a while. All you have to do is stop and think about why he's saying what he's saying, the context in which he's saying it, and put the brakes on your impulse to criticize criticize criticize that Trump always proviokes in you because you're a Leftist. If you ALSO want to point out that they shouldn't be going to work at all, fine, but realize please that that is another subject that Trump is not addressing with his comments. Sheesh. I'm glad he's got a tough hide. Most people couldn't put up with this endless abuse for half a second. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 661 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
It's one of those relative morality things. Do you let hundreds on the ship die to save thousands on land? But there's the added complication that you can also save most of the ones on the ship by getting them the hell off the ship. Trump is concerned to prevent the spread of the disease so he wants to keep it confined to the ship, and somehow you turn that into his not caring about the people on the ship?"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What YOU think misses the point. What HE had in mind was only CONFINING THE DISEASE TO PREVENT ITS SPREAD. THAT'S WHAT A QUARANTINE IS, THAT'S WHAT IS NORMALLY DONE WITH INFECTIOOUS DISEASES. You are all changing the subject and making him responsible for YOUR thoughts. Good grief. His motivations were the best, to keep the disease from spreading. If there are better solutions, fine, tell him and he'll follow them as he did when the CDC thought it best to move the people to military bases. Sheesh. This constant vilifying of Trump when he's actually doing good things, is SICK SICK SICK, it's INSANE.
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ringo Member (Idle past 661 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Oh, come off it. Stop pretending you know what he had in mind. Even he doesn't know what he's going to think from one minute to the next.
What HE had in mind... Faith writes:
Which condemns the people confined to the ship.
... CONFINING THE DISEASE TO PREVENT ITS SPREAD. Faith writes:
No, people are not normally quarantined in an environment where everybody is likely to become infected.
THAT'S WHAT A QUARANTINE IS, THAT'S WHAT IS NORMALLY DONE WITH INFECTIOOUS DISEASES. Faith writes:
You don't know his motivations.
His motivations were the best... Faith writes:
I'm not villifying Trump. This constant vilifying of Trump.... I'm pointing out that his "plan" is not a good one. The planning should be left to people who know what they're doing."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What he had in mind is what any normal person would have in mind who said what he said. It takes a twisted hatred for Trump to impute anything else to what he said.
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ringo Member (Idle past 661 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
On the contrary, any normal person would recognize that keeping people bottled up in an incubator of disease is a bad idea. That's why other nations - e.g. Canada - have been working to get the people OFF the cruise ships and bring them home. What he had in mind is what any normal person would have in mind who said what he said."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please stay with the subject. I'm talking about what he actually said and how any normal person who said that would have meant that he wanted to prevent the spread of the virus. As I already said, if you want to bring up better solutions then fine, BUT THEY ARE A DIFFERENT SUBJECT. Making Trump responsible for YOUR thoughts is unfair.
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ringo Member (Idle past 661 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
But any normal person can see that that isn't the whole story. You can't just throw the cruise ship passengers under the bus.
I'm talking about what he actually said and how any normal person who said that would have meant that he wanted to prevent the spread of the virus. Faith writes:
For days the Canadian news has been nothing but plans to get the people off the ships. Trump has no excuse for not knowing about the better solutions. I don't see how that's a different subject. As I already said, if you want to bring up better solutions then fine, BUT THEY ARE A DIFFERENT SUBJECT."I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"
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frako Member Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
What HE had in mind was only CONFINING THE DISEASE TO PREVENT ITS SPREAD. If that is so why dint he want to confine everyone on air force one when they where transporting a corona virus patient? Could it be that because he was on that flight? or that the majority was probably not infected like on the cruise ship?Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined:
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PaulK Member Posts: 17907 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
quote: No, you aren’t.
quote: That is definitely not true. As is perfectly obvious if we look at what he said:
"I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault," (Business Insider) So obviously he is concerned about the numbers, and who gets the blame for them. So, his main concern is adding the ship’s passengers to the US totals. Because it isn’t his administration’s fault that the infection got on the ship.
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AlexCaledin Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 64 From: Samara, Russia Joined: |
Italy is closing the churches to stop the virus . . . well, they'll see how it helps.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1693 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
yes he likes the numbers where they are and doesn't want to see them doubled. If we make the mistake we'll have to take the consequences but we should be able to prevent doubling the cases that were someone else's fault.
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