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cristian_gavrilescu
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Message 136 of 156 (876443)
05-20-2020 4:05 AM
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05-20-2020 4:00 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
to prevent coronavirus just respect the law of God..it's so easy

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cristian_gavrilescu
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Message 137 of 156 (876444)
05-20-2020 4:08 AM
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05-20-2020 4:05 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
lockdown is the way God finished with adultery

Edited by cristian_gavrilescu, : No reason given.


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AZPaul3
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Message 138 of 156 (876445)
05-20-2020 4:09 AM
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05-20-2020 4:00 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
If you don't question the answers then you are dead inside.

Chair number eleven makes no sense.


Factio Republicana delenda est.

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Phat
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Message 139 of 156 (876456)
05-20-2020 12:02 PM
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05-20-2020 4:09 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
AZP3 writes:

If you don't question the answers then you are dead inside.

Truth! And that goes for all of us. Some things are not evident at first.

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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Phat
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Message 140 of 156 (876457)
05-20-2020 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by ringo
05-18-2020 4:20 PM


The Evidence Is You
ringo writes:

The evidence is you. The evidence shows that your "communion" has saddled you with an immense truckload of really, really stupid ideas.

If I am, in fact, the evidence then it is time to make a video, though you likely can't watch it at that library. I'm better at speaking than I am at writing, however.

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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ringo
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Message 141 of 156 (876490)
05-21-2020 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 132 by cristian_gavrilescu
05-20-2020 2:06 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
cristian_gavrilescu writes:

when "science" search for an answer, they find 100 more questions


Yes. Science is humble.

Do you think you have all the answers?


"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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ringo
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Message 142 of 156 (876491)
05-21-2020 11:22 AM
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05-20-2020 12:05 PM


Re: The Evidence Is You
Phat writes:

I'm better at speaking than I am at writing, however.


Copout.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Capt Stormfield
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Message 143 of 156 (876498)
05-21-2020 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by vimesey
05-12-2020 11:53 AM


And which of the world’s particle accelerators is responsible for discovering the internet ?

The Large Gore-Butt Collider?


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Phat
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Message 144 of 156 (876503)
05-21-2020 12:27 PM
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05-21-2020 11:19 AM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
ringo, to CG writes:

Science is humble.
Do you think you have all the answers?

Do you think that the answers already exist and are simply waiting to be "discovered" by humanity or do you believe that as we learn we ourselves create the answers through critical thinking? Your answer will further explain your world view.

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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ringo
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Message 145 of 156 (876508)
05-21-2020 12:49 PM
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05-21-2020 12:27 PM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
Phat writes:

Do you think that the answers already exist and are simply waiting to be "discovered" by humanity or do you believe that as we learn we ourselves create the answers through critical thinking?


As I just said in another thread a minute ago, there are no magical "answers" floating around out there waiting to be discovered. Answers are the result of questions and questions are the result of human thinking.

(It doesn't have to be critical thinking. Critical thinking is just more likely to come up with better questions.)

Phat writes:

Your answer will further explain your world view.


You should stop trying to tie my worldview (or anybody else's) up in a neat little package.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Phat
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Message 146 of 156 (876517)
05-21-2020 3:09 PM
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05-21-2020 12:49 PM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
All that Im doing is showing that your line of reasoning limits what Jesus actually told the Disciples about His character and reframes the reality as limiting Jesus to a character in a book and irrelevant when it suits you yet you have the audacity to charge me with ignoring what a character in a book says when it suits your argument. Stop calling bullshit on what is patently obvious. Surely your brain and the brain of so many others reframes the whole concept of religion and belief within the power of humans to change and redefine at whim. You call my belief BS simply because you wont consider it. And yet you claim that I ignore what He said to do....if only you could see what we were doing last night....you would take back your claim.

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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ringo
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Message 147 of 156 (876523)
05-21-2020 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Phat
05-21-2020 3:09 PM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
Phat writes:

...your line of reasoning limits what Jesus actually told the Disciples about His character...


I'm the one who upholds what Jesus said and you're the one who denies it. Remember?

Phat writes:

... and reframes the reality as limiting Jesus to a character in a book...


Reality does limit Him to a character in a book. He has no other solid link to reality.

Phat writes:

... and irrelevant when it suits you...


You're the one who cherry-picks from the Book when it suits you and scoffs at it when it doesn't.

Phat writes:

... yet you have the audacity to charge me with ignoring what a character in a book says when it suits your argument.


I charge you with ignoring what's in the Book when you ignore what's in the Book. How can what suits me effect what you ignore?

Phat writes:

Stop calling bullshit on what is patently obvious.


Stop lying. I called bullshit on your claim that Christians are attacked more than any other religion. That is neither obvious nor even founded in fact.

Phat writes:

You call my belief BS simply because you wont consider it.


For fuck's sake, I HAVE considered it, as I have told you many times. I used to be where you are. By all appearances, I have considered it more carefully than you have.

Phat writes:

And yet you claim that I ignore what He said to do....if only you could see what we were doing last night....you would take back your claim.


Whatever you were doing last night has nothing to do with the fact that you deny what Jesus said.

"I'm Fallen and I can't get up!"

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Message 148 of 156 (876535)
05-21-2020 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by cristian_gavrilescu
05-17-2020 1:03 PM


Re: Hinduism
c_r writes:

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (Revelation 1:8)
tell me a god who can say this

John of Patmos said that. I have never heard a deity say that. Have you?

I'm not that impressed by people who write things down in books and claim to be speaking for a deity. How about you?


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cristian_gavrilescu
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Message 149 of 156 (876543)
05-22-2020 1:22 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Taq
05-21-2020 6:04 PM


Re: Hinduism
show me a god who said that in the same way

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Phat
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Message 150 of 156 (876545)
05-22-2020 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by ringo
05-21-2020 3:59 PM


Re: Moderator Inquiry
ringo writes:

I called bullshit on your claim that Christians are attacked more than any other religion. That is neither obvious nor even founded in fact.

There are several articles online by different researchers that support my claim.
The Most Persecuted Religion in the World by Kelly James Clark, a Senior Research Fellow at the Kaufman Institute, Grand Valley State University.
What evidence do you have that suggests otherwise?


“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
Anne Lamott
I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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