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jar
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Message 47 of 263 (878867)
07-06-2020 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Phat
07-06-2020 9:06 AM


Re: Airing The Arguments
Phat writes:
There are far too many believers who have had very real experiences. We all are not delusional.
What evidence is there that you are not all willfully delusional?

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jar
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Message 50 of 263 (878874)
07-06-2020 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Phat
07-06-2020 11:23 AM


Re: Airing The Arguments
The question was whether or not you had any evidence that they were not all willfully delusional.
Evidence is the only thing that we can test.

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jar
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Message 52 of 263 (878919)
07-07-2020 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Phat
07-07-2020 2:15 AM


Re: Airing The Arguments
I can make judgements based on their behavior.
But what possible behavior would differentiate some supernatural event from a delusion?

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jar
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Message 65 of 263 (878966)
07-07-2020 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Phat
07-07-2020 5:01 PM


Re: Airing The Arguments
Phat, there's no major thing wrong with your beliefs other than the fact that you try to pretend that there is anything reasonable, rational, logical, factual or evidence based and that you and all of the Christian Cult of Ignorance create a whole new god in YOUR image and misrepresent what is actually contained in the Bible stories as well as all of the basic creeds and tenets and history of Christianity. You rely solely on the words and tales of fairly recent Snake-oil salesman and never honestly learn the facts of basics of the Christian religion.
Instead of throwing the God(s) and god(s) you create away you embrace them as though they actually had any base in either reality or Christian Scripture.
Edited by jar, : fix parens
Edited by jar, : of -------> or

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jar
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Message 79 of 263 (879010)
07-09-2020 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Phat
07-09-2020 1:35 PM


Re: Airing The Arguments
Phat writes:
Pastor Isaiah speaks of the excitement of being alive during what he calls supernatural times and a season of deliverance, healing, and revival...but while not disagreeing with him, I think that the sacrifice that the Christians will have to endure may cause the love of many to grow cold.
Conmen always sell the easy and attractive crap.

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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days)
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Message 81 of 263 (879013)
07-09-2020 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 80 by Phat
07-09-2020 4:10 PM


Re: Airing The Arguments
LOL
Phat, just a single reply above you even quoted some of the evidence that exists but also pointed out that you did not like the lesson.
The conmen sell the pretty, the sizzle, the easy out, the happy endings and claim that is what the message of Jesus says.
But then when folk point out what is actually written in the stories and the creeds you claim that they have no evidence.

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jar
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Message 88 of 263 (879050)
07-10-2020 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Phat
07-10-2020 2:29 PM


Re: Airing The Arguments
Phat writes:
What I meant was that it is evident to me that jar has no evidence that his interpretation of the plain reading of the Bible coupled with his judgement of the message of mainstream apologetics is any more likely to be the way that life will ultimately play out.
Once again Phat you are either attempting to prove that you are incapable of reading what I post or are once again trying to misrepresent what I post.
Why must you always resort to at best, misrepresentation of what others post?
What I assert is that what is actually written in the Bible is what the authors actually wrote in the stories. My position can be tested by going and reading what is actually written and in your very posts you have shown that when even YOU actually go and read honestly and fully what is written you agree that it support our position.
And each time you tell us that you don't like that conclusion. See Message 78.
But you have NEVER provided similar support for what YOU like and what the Apologist market.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
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Message 113 of 263 (879185)
07-12-2020 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Kleinman
07-12-2020 5:09 PM


Kleinman continues the dishonest we expect from him.
Kleinman writes:
Go publish a paper showing you are a direct descendent of bananas.
And so you continue to post utter nonsense and misrepresent all that folk have attempted to teach you.
That is classic Christian Cult of Ignorance behavior.

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jar
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Message 117 of 263 (879195)
07-12-2020 7:33 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by Kleinman
07-12-2020 5:41 PM


Re: Kleinman continues the dishonesty we expect from him.
And yet again, all you can do is misrepresent what people have been trying to teach you.

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
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Message 132 of 263 (879252)
07-13-2020 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by Kleinman
07-13-2020 4:22 PM


Klienman is at best just another Medicine Man selling snake-oil.
Kleinman writes:
Could you please give us a bit more help and show us how you banana-pick a gene from a banana, banana-pick one of your own genes, put that data into the Jukes-Cantor model and show us how you are a direct descendant to a banana?
Could you please give us an example of where anyone other than you has ever made a claim of humans being direct descendants of bananas?
Of course you can't because it is only jesters and snake-oil salesmen like you who ever suggest such claims.
You did provide comedy relief at first but now you are simply inane and boring.
Edited by jar, : fix sub-title
Edited by jar, : -z
Edited by jar, : fools ---> jesters Keep the Fhrer happy

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jar
Member (Idle past 422 days)
Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 135 of 263 (879255)
07-13-2020 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by Kleinman
07-13-2020 4:52 PM


Re: Klienman is at best just another Medicine Man selling snake-oil.
And so as expected you cannot provide a single example of anyone but you suggesting any banana to humandirect descent.
You are a classic example of the Christian Cult of Ignorance. (use peek mode)

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