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Tangle
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Message 256 of 263 (879668)
07-19-2020 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 255 by Kleinman
07-19-2020 6:11 PM


Thanks, I'm done.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Kleinman
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Message 257 of 263 (879669)
07-19-2020 6:35 PM
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07-19-2020 6:29 PM


Tangle writes:

Thanks, I'm done.


I missed it, when did you start? You could start by learning some introductory probability theory. Watch the Kahn Academy or Professor Leonard lectures on probability theory on YouTube.

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ringo
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Message 258 of 263 (879670)
07-19-2020 7:59 PM
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07-19-2020 6:11 PM


Kleinman writes:

Your atheism is based on blind faith.


Atheism is based on LACK of faith.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Kleinman
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Message 259 of 263 (879671)
07-19-2020 8:48 PM
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07-19-2020 7:59 PM


Kleinman writes:

Your atheism is based on blind faith.

ringo writes:

Atheism is based on LACK of faith.


Really? You know for a fact that there is no God? You can't even explain the physics and mathematics of evolution correctly.

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proudly roman catholic
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Message 260 of 263 (879674)
07-19-2020 10:10 PM


judging that kleinman is the only one who accomplished something academic on this site, i guess we have accomplished nothing. the ignorance and ad-hominem attacks directed at creationists on this site is spell-binding. there are more users who haven't posted in 4000+ days than the active user base.

but i don't like to judge. i am washed in the blood of Christ. i don't believe ANYONE could possibly make a positive impact on this site.

all that's left is the detritus of society, low-level edgy atheist trolls and of course the human genocide party neo-libs, upset that a God fearing man became president.

Donald Trump is the greatest president in history, and you hate to see it. Melania is die hard Roman Catholic, and you hate to see it.

Your community of Christ-lover-haters is on the way out.

Your theory is on the way out.

But if you excuse me, I have a wedding to catch. Christ is the groom and the Church is the bride.

Have mercy on me,a O God,

according to Your loving devotion;

according to Your great compassion,

blot out my transgressions.

2Wash me clean of my iniquity

and cleanse me from my sin.

3For I know my transgressions,

and my sin is always before me.

4Against You, You only, have I sinned

and done what is evil in Your sight,

so that You may be proved right when You speak

and blameless when You judge.b

5Surely I was brought forth in iniquity;

I was sinful when my mother conceived me.

6Surely You desire truth in the inmost being;

You teach me wisdom in the inmost place.

7Purify me with hyssop, and I will be clean;

wash me, and I will be whiter than snow.

8Let me hear joy and gladness;

let the bones You have crushed rejoice.

9Hide Your face from my sins

and blot out all my iniquities.

10Create in me a clean heart, O God,

and renew a right spirit within me.

11Cast me not away from Your presence;

take not Your Holy Spirit from me.

12Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,

and sustain me with a willing spirit.

13Then I will teach transgressors Your ways,

and sinners will return to You.

14Deliver me from bloodguilt, O God,

the God of my salvation,

and my tongue will sing of Your righteousness.

15O Lord, open my lips,

and my mouth will declare Your praise.

16For You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it;

You take no pleasure in burnt offerings.

17The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;

a broken and a contrite heart,

O God, You will not despise.

18In Your good pleasure, cause Zion to prosper;

build up the walls of Jerusalem.

19Then You will delight in righteous sacrifices,

in whole burnt offerings;

then bulls will be offered on Your altar.

Edited by a servant of Christ, : No reason given.


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Kleinman
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Message 261 of 263 (879675)
07-20-2020 2:03 AM
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07-19-2020 10:10 PM


a Servant of Christ writes:

judging that kleinman is the only one who accomplished something academic on this site, i guess we have accomplished nothing. the ignorance and ad-hominem attacks directed at creationists on this site is spell-binding.


You should understand that this is more than an academic matter, this is spiritual warfare. And the battle is heating up in all corners of our society and with good cause, but it is good to remember, "If God is for us..." Thank you for your encouragement and I hope I've been an encouragement to you.

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AZPaul3
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Message 262 of 263 (879678)
07-20-2020 5:46 AM
Reply to: Message 259 by Kleinman
07-19-2020 8:48 PM


Really? You know for a fact that there is no God? You can't even explain the physics and mathematics of evolution correctly.

You call yourself a scientist? We do not need to prove a negative. We do not need to show there is no tooth fairy to have a lack of faith. We do not need to show there is no god to have a lack of faith.

We do have you abusing your math to foster inane bullshit. It doesn’t matter that you have papers self-published sitting on the shelf collecting dust unused because the discipline finds them intellectually vacuous.

Go ahead. Tell me how I can’t compute the genetics of fish-to-mammal or the Kishony and Lenski experiments or the Markov Chain processes. Your one-note-johnny persona is all your sick mind has to offer. Your mathematical sword is limp and dull.

In the most classic of scientific terms you are both a scientific and a religious crackpot. And that will follow you for the rest of your life.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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AdminPhat
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Message 263 of 263 (879679)
07-20-2020 7:47 AM


Closing For Now
Out of respect for Ben, who started this topic, I have decided upon reviewing the previous 15 posts to shut this down for now.

  • Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
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