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ramoss
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Message 61 of 141 (879932)
07-26-2020 12:56 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Sarah Bellum
07-22-2020 1:06 PM


That is the fake news the trump administration is trying to push. It's a non-issue, because it's be hashed, rehashed, examined, reexamined, and found to be nothing.

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ramoss
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Message 62 of 141 (879933)
07-26-2020 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Sarah Bellum
07-23-2020 5:05 PM


Well, andrew sullivan is not particularly unbiased, so I am not going to accept anything he says.

However, when it comes to Tara Reede,

1) Her story constantly changed over time
2) The physical location the alleged assault occurred does not match her story
3) Multiple people said she asked them to lie about what she initially told them.

There are other things, but those three things alone discredit her as a valid person for accusations.


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DrJones*
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Message 63 of 141 (879934)
07-26-2020 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by Sarah Bellum
07-22-2020 1:06 PM


the ukraine thing that trump got impeached over?

Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.


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marc9000
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Message 64 of 141 (879962)
07-26-2020 8:03 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Hyroglyphx
07-25-2020 6:47 PM


Re: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend?
There is a caveat though, I suppose. And that is who Biden's team selects as his running mate. Because much like it was Cheney running the White House and not George Bush, that could conceivably happen. That might be the only thing to change this swing voter's mind.

Do you think it's time for Biden's team to officially name his running mate? Trump named Pence on 7-15-16. Hillary named Kaine on 7-22-16. The election that year was on November 8th, this year it will be November 3rd, so that's five days less from this date this year versus that year, to understand how that person will affect the "home stretch" in determining who the next president will be.

There's a better chance that this VP nominee WILL be running the White House either as president or behind-the-scenes fill in concerning Biden's age alone. I think it's time for the voters and analyzers to know who it is NOW.

The news media never criticizes or questions Biden about anything. Wouldn't it be nice if they'd pressure him to get this done? If he can't make this decision, how effective will he make time-sensitive decisions as president?


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Message 65 of 141 (879983)
07-27-2020 8:36 AM


the alzheimers is so advanced theyre hiding him in a basement. wouldn't let him chat with left lemming chris wallace.

he can't talk, debate, interview.

trump derangement syndrome is virulent on here. pray for a vaccine.


  
Sarah Bellum
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Message 66 of 141 (880002)
07-27-2020 4:54 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by kjsimons
07-25-2020 9:35 PM


I was responding to the remark about President Obama being the worst President ever. I disagreed with that.

Here's an example of a worse President:

Lyndon Johnson oversaw the greatest failure of American domestic policy, the "Great Society" . . . cities rotting from Cabrini-Green to Pruitt-Igoe . . . long hot summers . . . Watts and LA burning . . . 101st Airborne sent to Detroit . . . The Moynihan Report . . . guns and butter . . . inflation ignited . . . chickens coming home to roost at the 1968 Democrat convention . . .

Lyndon Johnson oversaw the greatest failure of American foreign policy . . . Tonkin Gulf Resolution . . . Pleiku . . . Khe Sanh . . . The Pentagon Papers . . . Tet . . .

Lyndon Johnson was personally corrupt . . . Box 13 in Jim Wells County . . . cash in paper bags from businessmen "buying ads" on his wife's radio and TV stations . . . Bobby Baker . . . LBJ Ranch acquired on a "government salary" . . . Abe Fortas and the 1948 Senatorial primary . . .

By the way, if you're trying to convince people not to vote for President Trump, I'll give you a tip: don't call them idiots for having the temerity to disagree with you!


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Sarah Bellum
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Message 67 of 141 (880003)
07-27-2020 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by ramoss
07-26-2020 12:56 AM


All I've said is it will "will keep popping up". Do you disagree?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 68 of 141 (880004)
07-27-2020 5:00 PM
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07-26-2020 1:00 AM


That, of course, is the whole point. As Sullivan put it
quote:
By Biden’s own standards, he’s guilty as charged. Reade claims Biden never got affirmative consent from her, and she feels and believes he assaulted her. He never got affirmative consent for countless handsy moves over the decades that unsettled some of the recipients of such affection. End of story. By Biden’s own logic, it is irrelevant that he didn’t mean to harm or discomfit anyone, that Reade’s story may have changed over time, that she might have mixed motives, that she has a record...

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 69 of 141 (880005)
07-27-2020 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by DrJones*
07-26-2020 1:15 AM


The impeachment was a bad tactical move, it just highlighted the possibility that there was something about the Biden family's business dealings that they didn't want publicized.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 70 of 141 (880007)
07-27-2020 5:29 PM
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07-26-2020 8:03 PM


Re: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend?
He boxed himself in promising to have a female VP nominee. Not that I'm against women running for office! But with all the urban unrest he will also be pressured to nominate a person of color.

That's fine, as far as it goes, but he also has the problem that he would be by far the oldest and frailest President-elect, older on inauguration day 2021 than President Reagan was when he left office!

So Mr. Biden has to pick a running mate with experience and connections to step into his place if he should follow in Yuri Andropov's footsteps.

The selection of a running mate is said to be the first big decision of any (would-be) Presidency. There's a strong possibility that he's made a good decision impossible to make.


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vimesey
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Message 71 of 141 (880009)
07-27-2020 5:50 PM
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07-27-2020 5:29 PM


Re: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend?
Biden could appoint an amoeba as VP, and if that amoeba ended up in charge, it would still do a better job of leading your country than Trump could possibly hope to do, with Washington and Lincoln pointing loaded guns at his head, threatening to shoot him if he so much as opened his mouth.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 72 of 141 (880010)
07-27-2020 5:56 PM
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07-27-2020 5:50 PM


Re: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend?
But could Mr. Biden shoot that amoeba on 5th Avenue and not lose voters?

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DrJones*
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Message 73 of 141 (880014)
07-27-2020 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Sarah Bellum
07-27-2020 5:04 PM


the impeachment that exposed trumps bad deeds was a bad move for Biden?

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 74 of 141 (880016)
07-27-2020 8:31 PM
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07-27-2020 7:44 PM


I suppose we'll have to see how the voters decide on the various scandals...

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Message 75 of 141 (880033)
07-28-2020 9:09 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Sarah Bellum
07-27-2020 4:54 PM


Sarah Bellum writes:

By the way, if you're trying to convince people not to vote for President Trump, I'll give you a tip: don't call them idiots for having the temerity to disagree with you!


They're not idiots for having the temerity to disagree. They're idiots for considering Trump.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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