When you suggest that someone makes the claim that you posted, then I most certainly can see that he is simply another carny huckster.
quote:Lets start with The First Circle. Potter basically breaks the three worldviews down as Monism Dualism Trinitarianism
That itself is more than enough evidence to simply laugh and walk away.
But wait, there's more. You posted some more of his absurdities in Message 16. They are all simply meaningless word salad and quite honestly, just ******** and misrepresentation as has already been pointed out to you.
I counter by saying that God exists, cares about all humans, and foreknows that Communion with Him is better for us than autonomy and freethought.
Then you should be able to explain what the hell that even means, how "communion" with the supernatural is even possible and how it is better for us than autonomy, freethought and responsibility.
Phat, what you fall back into, pretty much constantly, is "Club Speak". Instead of speaking English you fall back on definitions accepted in your secret club, your clique, your cult.
When you say "I counter by saying that God exists, cares about all humans, and foreknows that Communion with Him is better for us than autonomy and freethought." everyone in your secret club, your clique, your cult nods there heads as though that actually had some meaning beyond "stuff that makes members of your secret club, your clique, your cult nod their heads knowingly."
No one in your secret club, your clique, your cult ever questions what it means or tries to explain what it means or even thinks about what it means. The reality is that "I counter by saying that God exists, cares about all humans, and foreknows that Communion with Him is better for us than autonomy and freethought." actually only means "something that makes the members of my secret club, my clique, my cult nod their heads knowingly."
You use your Captain Midnight Secret Glow Green in the Dark decoder ring and it tells you to nod your head and smile wisely
Beyond your secret club, your clique and your cult it has no meaning or rather whatever meaning anyone wants to assign.
When others challenge you to explain it you have no real chance. You say "Everyone knows what it means and you are just being difficult" when the reality is that outside your secret club, your clique, your cult there really isn't any meaning.
The club has its hjighest regards for human wisdom. They honor Critical Thinking. They reject all supernatural unexplained phenomena.
No Phat, that is not true.
They ask for evidence to support assertions of supernatural unexplained phenomena or they are honest and simply place them in the "Unexplained " box. They don't reject anything except ***** lableing the unknown as though it was known.
You use Critical Thinking to dissect the Bible. You even use it to dissect God.
No Phat, that is not true.
I do not dissect the Bible or God. I accept that the Bible says what is actually written and that the God folk describe is just as they make up.
And what if knowing and accepting God was Gods desired goal for all of us? Your club would never agree enough to ever accept Him. You could only hope at best that He would accept you based on what you do.
LOL Again Phat, that is just stupid.
I am a believer. It just the God(s) and god(s0 you create that I do not accept. But if you can provide evidence or reasoned arguments to support the God(s) or god(s) you create I'd even consider accepting them.
And there you go again. You made the same argument about Saul being transformed into Paul. Paul was totally different than Saul. You minimize the event by claiming that he simply switched sides and was essentially the same person.
Yet that is NOT what the evidence shows Phat. Paul continued all of Saul's faults and shortcoming and was exactly the same unrepentant, unforgiving, obnoxious, "may way or the highway", loud mouthed pratt as before. Paul did change sides but nothing else UNLESS you can offer evidence or reasoned support for your assertion.
You can really only test "spirit" through long term observation of behavior.
What behavior and how does that particular behavior test or evidence or demonstrate "spirit"?