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Author Topic:   Miracle Of The Sun & Other Musings
Tangle
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Message 61 of 327 (881090)
08-18-2020 4:53 AM
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08-17-2020 11:31 PM


prc writes:
an insect with literal working gears
You're four years late
EvC Forum: Gears found in Nature
What has a grasshopper's legs got to do with miracles of the sun?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 62 of 327 (881127)
08-18-2020 1:57 PM


Christ died for me.
the creator
the omphalos of the universe
transmigration of souls
i met father bancroft today again
quote:
Gazing at the stars at night, he is awestruck. God has created something so much larger than we can imagine, for us. It’s a huge gift, the universe itself.
A sense of wonder is something mankind needs to recover, he firmly believes. He absolutely loves us, Father Bancroft said. He’s created all of this for us.
When we realize what’s beyond us spiritually, alsoGodhow much greater is He than just the stars.
he finds time all the time for the simple sinner
and look how he acknowledges the creator
Christ is so profound
the greatest christ artist was a profound sinner
named carravaggio
he was known for drunken brawling
despite his sinfullness he completed the most beautiful paintings of our lord of all-time.
wow.
i am constantly amazed at christ
the verve he had
beaten to a pulp
and still carried his cross in order to be crucified

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Message 63 of 327 (881128)
08-18-2020 2:06 PM
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08-18-2020 1:57 PM


Musings From PRC
Don't let them discourage you,PRC. I specifically put this topic in Free For All and allowed you to have your own topic for blogging and Haiku expressiveness, for I suspected that this is what you would end up doing. Tell me though---who is Father Bancroft? Surely more people than just I would be curious.
And another question: Is your Brother still more charismatic and Protestant? If so, have you two found common ground in regards to God, Communion, and Beliefs?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Phat
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Message 64 of 327 (881129)
08-18-2020 2:11 PM
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08-18-2020 4:53 AM


EvC Has Room For One Guys Blog.
Tangle writes:
What has a grasshopper's legs got to do with miracles of the sun?
I think PRC is more in search of Miracles Of The Son. Both in his life and those of us who believe that the Son lives. EvC Forum has room both for Evolution and Science and for Creation and a Creator. One side is Science and the other is Philosophy.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Message 65 of 327 (881134)
08-18-2020 2:57 PM
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08-13-2020 12:18 PM


Re: About Popes And Presidents
Phat says:
I'm not disagreeing except to say that the story is not at that point complete.
Hi Phat,
It's hilarious listening to you tell us what the Bible should have said instead of what it actually says...

"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Tangle
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Message 66 of 327 (881136)
08-18-2020 3:03 PM
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08-18-2020 2:11 PM


Re: EvC Has Room For One Guys Blog.
Phat writes:
One side is Science and the other is Philosophy.
Where's the philosophy? He's just doing a pointless and prolonged religious spam and you're allowing him the space.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 67 of 327 (881289)
08-21-2020 2:58 PM


evc forum does not accept private revelation. after reading of a person's experience seeing heaven at the consecration of the host and blood, i have realized that i have seen jesus numerous times. the most flagrant example was when he appeared on a movie theater screen toward the end of a prolife film to say i love you to me three times.
i have seen christ, i began having visions of christ after a priest asked me to reflect on the image of christ for a penance several years ago.
i have been given the grace to know Christ through visions, which is perhaps why i am more welcoming of the visions of jacinta francisco and lucia. not only was there a visible miracle associated with the visions at fatima, lucia went on to foretell the assassination attempt on JPII.

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Message 68 of 327 (881290)
08-21-2020 3:01 PM
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08-18-2020 2:06 PM


Re: Musings From PRC
father bancroft is a relatively young priest in a neighboring town. he discerned his vocation to the priesthood in the 4th grade! and he has been an incredible spiritual support for me.

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Message 69 of 327 (881339)
08-22-2020 1:37 PM
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08-21-2020 2:58 PM


proudly roman catholic writes:
i have been given the grace to know Christ through visions, which is perhaps why i am more welcoming of the visions of jacinta francisco and lucia.
I see faces on my bathroom floor. Where I used to live I saw faces on the bathroom wallpaper. It's a pretty common phenomenon.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 70 of 327 (881340)
08-22-2020 2:24 PM
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08-22-2020 1:37 PM


Scoffers Will Scoff
Yeah we know the drill.
OK. So you or Tangle will bring up Pareidolia and claim that this explains away every vision of a face by every human throughout History, right?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Tangle
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Message 71 of 327 (881342)
08-22-2020 2:35 PM
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08-22-2020 2:24 PM


Re: Scoffers Will Scoff
Phat writes:
OK. So you or Tangle will bring up Pareidolia and claim that this explains away every vision of a face by every human throughout History, right?
Human suggestibility combined with the need to believe, explains every instance of faces in toast. Surely, surely, you can't believe god sends messages in biscuits and tea leaves? Surely?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 72 of 327 (881343)
08-22-2020 2:53 PM
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08-22-2020 2:35 PM


Re: Scoffers Will Scoff
Personally I don't, but who is to say that PRC is not wired to receive confirmation through everyday experiences?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer
The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.
- Criss Jami, Killosophy

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Message 73 of 327 (881344)
08-22-2020 3:08 PM
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08-22-2020 2:53 PM


Re: Scoffers Will Scoff
Phat writes:
Personally I don't, but who is to say that PRC is not wired to receive confirmation through everyday experiences?
Anyone with a brain and the capacity to use it.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 74 of 327 (881383)
08-23-2020 9:21 AM
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08-22-2020 2:24 PM


Re: Scoffers Will Scoff
Phat writes:
So you or Tangle will bring up Pareidolia and claim that this explains away every vision of a face by every human throughout History, right?
When there is a simple explanation, why look for a complcated one?
Be honest. If I said I saw Muhammad on the wallpaper, you'd scoff at me, wouldn't you?

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 75 of 327 (881387)
08-23-2020 9:48 AM
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Re: Scoffers Will Scoff
ringo writes:
Be honest. If I said I saw Muhammad on the wallpaper, you'd scoff at me, wouldn't you?
If it was Islamic wallpaper I would fursur. But if you claimed you saw Schrodinger's Cat I would never scoff.

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