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jar
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Message 53 of 61 (883018)
10-31-2020 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Phat
10-31-2020 3:20 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat writes:

jars Socratic teachers and critical thinkers convinced him that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

Phat you really gotta stop making stupid shit up.

The evidence, all of the evidence convinced me that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

Arian Christianity was different than Roman Christianity.
Christianity is different than Judaism.
Judaism is different that Islam.
Shall I go on yet again?
Taoism is different than Confucianism.
Buddhism is different than Hinduism.
Greek Theology is different than Roman Theology or Celtic Theology or Norse Theology.

And NO ONE has even provided any evidence of any essential absolute.

It is evidence, evidence available to everyone of any faith that convinced me and no one of any faith has ever presented evidence or reasoned argument to refute my position.

You really need to stop posting made up shit as though it were anything but your made up shit.

Edited by jar, : one - "e"

Edited by jar, : that ----> than


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jar
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Message 57 of 61 (883034)
11-01-2020 3:20 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Phat
11-01-2020 1:41 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat, reread that post. Where does ANYTHING in your post have to do with providing any evidence of any essential absolute?

Yet that is the quote from my post you claim to address.

And what about all that I posted and you ignored?

quote:
The evidence, all of the evidence convinced me that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

Arian Christianity was different than Roman Christianity.
Christianity is different than Judaism.
Judaism is different than Islam.
Shall I go on yet again?
Taoism is different than Confucianism.
Buddhism is different than Hinduism.
Greek Theology is different than Roman Theology or Celtic Theology or Norse Theology.

... {the one line you cherry picked} ...

It is evidence, evidence available to everyone of any faith that convinced me and no one of any faith has ever presented evidence or reasoned argument to refute my position.


I was replying to your direct assertion of why I believe what I believe and I pointed out that you were simply misrepresenting once again my position.

Phat writes:

jars Socratic teachers and critical thinkers convinced him that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

And now in your latest post you once again ignore the facts I present and post yet another example of your belief rather than support what you claim to be addressing or the bulk of what I posted.

Can you see a continuing pattern in your posts Phat?

Edited by jar, : appalin spallin


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jar
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Message 60 of 61 (883038)
11-01-2020 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Phat
11-01-2020 3:47 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat writes:

I was just arguing about why you are not a believer. Based on your own criteria, there is no way that you would ever believe without evidence.
What mystifies me is why you claim to be a believeer. About all that you believe in is the club rules and guidelines. You have no God in which to believe. Unless I can get you to admit that you believe without evidence.

Think Phat; really try it. You might like it.

Haven't I and a whole herd of folk repeatedly said that belief is ALWAYS without evidence.

But what you are replying to is in fact evidence and evidence must ALWAYS trump belief.

I was replying to your direct assertion of why I say what I say and I pointed out that you were simply misrepresenting once again my position.

Phat writes:

jars Socratic teachers and critical thinkers convinced him that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

What began this exchange was your silly assertion about why I hold the positions I express. And it is because there actually is evidence to support those positions; no belief is needed or necessary or relevant.

quote:
The evidence, all of the evidence convinced me that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

Arian Christianity was different than Roman Christianity.
Christianity is different than Judaism.
Judaism is different than Islam.
Shall I go on yet again?
Taoism is different than Confucianism.
Buddhism is different than Hinduism.
Greek Theology is different than Roman Theology or Celtic Theology or Norse Theology.

... {the one line you cherry picked} ...

It is evidence, evidence available to everyone of any faith that convinced me and no one of any faith has ever presented evidence or reasoned argument to refute my position.


Those are ALL facts Phat. Facts that support the conclusion that ALL religion is relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute.

Yes I am a believer. Yes there is NO evidence to support my beliefs. Yes, what I believe is unreasonable, unsupportable and illogical.

But you keep making statements as demonstrated in this exchange where you demonstrate that you cannot address anything that anyone posts. All you can do is spout dogma.

No one doubts that you believe what you believe but as in this exchange, when you are confronted with the evidence that does refute your stated position ether throw you position away or present evidence or reasoned arguments to support your position.

Edited by jar, : add the assertion from Phat that started this exchange.

Edited by jar, : fixed grammur


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