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Tangle
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Message 49 of 61 (882990)
10-30-2020 2:37 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by Phat
10-30-2020 2:23 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat, Marxism is not socialism is not liberalism. These terms are NOT synonymous.

Jesus was almost certainly a socialist but he also thought he was going to be an earthly king on earth so I'm not sure how that would have worked out.


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Tangle
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Message 51 of 61 (883001)
10-30-2020 4:03 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Phat
10-30-2020 3:34 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat writes:

whether or not He was bigger than the character in the book. (He Was and IS)

Given that the book is all there is, what's in there is all you get. Anything else you are making up.

But it's pretty bloody obvious that the guy is not a self-centred, every-man-for-himself, grab what you can, capitalist.

Lets discuss why Britain is such a pacifist regarding the invasion of Radical Islam.

'Scuse me?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Tangle
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Message 54 of 61 (883019)
10-31-2020 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Phat
10-31-2020 3:20 PM


Re: Addressing Some Opponents
Phat writes:

I disagree.

So what? It doesn't change the absolute fact that everything you believe in comes from that book.

The book was a written response to human encounters with God...not an origin of human mythos.

Whatever...the book is still the book and it's all you have.

Which leads us into other argumens. jars Socratic teachers and critical thinkers convinced him that religion was relative to culture and that there is no essential absolute. You also fall for that deception. I dunno if we can blame Marx of Alinsky for that one, however. I think that where we disagree is in the area of critical thought processes, and if so, I wont blame you for being as you are.

You are totally screwed up. You don't know which way is up anymore.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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