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Author | Topic: Be It Stealth or Cyber: We Are In A War With China | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Stile Member Posts: 4034 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 4.0
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I don't think it's a war with China. Granted, I do highly agree that "democracy" is under siege. But not from China or Russia or any other abroad threat. It's under siege from within. And the only way to stop them is to hold them accountable. Without that - democracy will die, eventually. But not from abroad, it will die from within, while you're looking for the problem to be abroad.
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Phat Member Posts: 14955 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I agree. Some questions, though. How can one be accountable when the governing body is partisan politics? We have two ideologically competing groups. How does one forge a consensus (bipartisan) that the leaders need to be accountable to? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member Posts: 33178 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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The only way is by picking better politicians; by the voters being the leaders. And that depends on first educating voters on how to think; but before that can happen the Christian Cult of ********* must be replaced by those who place CONTENT over source. My Website: My Website
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Phat Member Posts: 14955 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Note that I agree with much of what you say, but when you you say really stupid things like placing CONTENT over SOURCE, you only show the wilful ignorance of your critically thought out beliefs. You simply refuse to believe in a supernatural God and you prefer humans doing all of the work. Bottom line: We simply can't. He would never need to come back otherwise. I will agree with you that we owe it to ourselves to try and do our best. He likely expects the same effort. Edited by Phat, : spelling "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member Posts: 33178 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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You are of course free to wait fopr the god you created to do something but the rest of the world will simply go ahead and address their issues and needs and let the god you created handle yours.
Your welfare is NOT their problem. My Website: My Website
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Phat Member Posts: 14955 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
![]() "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Stile Member Posts: 4034 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 4.0 |
Just the same laws we already have in place. First of all, however, transparency is key. All monetary transactions between the government and any agency should be available for the public. Then, things can be handled within the existing courts. A few examples: 1. If it can be shown that Obama's direction was to put Health-Care standards in place in a way that "funneled money" towards certain contacts in the health industry - then Obama (and any other involved-personnel) should be put in jail for an amount of time respective to the crime. 2. If it can be shown that Trump had monetary ties to Russia, or "funneled money" towards certain contacts when he shouldn't have - then Trump (and any other involved-personnel) should be put in jail for an amount of time respective to the crime. Partisan politics don't come into it at all. If nothing happened in these two instances, then transparency shouldn't be an issue. Neither of these examples have anything to do with "national security" or anything like that. Other than things that certainly should be public, if anything actually happened.
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Phat Member Posts: 14955 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
If not, sho0w me why the GOD you believe in is so lovey dovey and rainbow centric. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member Posts: 33178 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
You just keep making shit up and pretending it is something others have said or believed. Your welfare is NOT the problem of either the rich or everyone else in the world who have been addressing paying their bill. Sorry Phat but that's reality and you will have to live with it regardless of whatever the god you create might claim. Look at Texas today. Texas has the power grid & infrastructure the Texas voters elected representatives created. It's a stand alone network not connected to the rest of the US power grid. Texas is sufferings now because of that. Texas suffers every year from major flooding with tens of thousands of homes and cars and lives damaged because Texas voters elected representatives who refused to require building codes and standards and so allowed homes to be built in areas the get flooded every year or three. Reality exists Phat and we get to pay the bill one way or another. Those who find the least painful methods of paying their bills will suffer the least. It looks like a large significant portion the known as the Christian Cult of ********* US has chosen to take the path most painful. Like Texas, they will get the results they chose.
But so far you never shown that you even have a clue how any truth, absolute or relative might be determined. My Website: My Website
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