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Tangle
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Message 16 of 20 (882876)
10-22-2020 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Taq
10-22-2020 6:16 PM


Taq writes:

It is worth remembering that Islam is a religion, not a race.

Oh, sure I'm aware of the intellectual difference, but my feeling about the belief system that allows, encourages, or turns a blind eye to the activities of delusional murderers within it are not rational. But they are real. Whatever name you give to that feeling, I have it and it's definitely an 'ism'.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 17 of 20 (882880)
10-23-2020 12:01 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Tangle
10-22-2020 6:52 PM


Tangle writes:

Whatever name you give to that feeling, I have it and it's definitely an 'ism'.

I have had that feeling as well, and in my very fallible and emotionally driven human mind it can mix up religion and race. I definitely get where you are coming from. Tribalism, xenophobia, othering . . . it goes by a lot of names.


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Sarah Bellum
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Message 18 of 20 (882919)
10-25-2020 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
10-17-2020 3:53 AM


Some cultures are just wrong. The Islamists who believe people should be killed for drawing cartoons have a culture just as bad as that of the antebellum slave traders (interesting how the only culture that STILL has slavery nowadays is muslim...) or female circumcisionists in Africa.

Keep reposting the cartoons.

And while you're at it, keep posting the depictions of Muhammad that the Muslims produced in their art back in their medieval "golden era"!


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Taq
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Message 19 of 20 (882943)
10-26-2020 6:52 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Sarah Bellum
10-25-2020 10:35 AM


Sarah Bellum writes:

Some cultures are just wrong. The Islamists who believe people should be killed for drawing cartoons have a culture just as bad as that of the antebellum slave traders (interesting how the only culture that STILL has slavery nowadays is muslim...) or female circumcisionists in Africa.

This isn't meant to excuse anyone from heinous acts, but . . .

We should also keep in mind the crimes the West has visited upon the Islamic world. None of us are innocent or perfect, and no culture is without sin.


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Message 20 of 20 (882946)
10-27-2020 4:37 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Taq
10-26-2020 6:52 PM


This is, of course, true.

Even Mohandas Gandhi and Mother Teresa were not without sin.

But their crimes are not comparable with the crimes of, say, Jeffrey Dahmer or Herman Mudgett.


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