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Message 1 of 186 (882847)
10-21-2020 10:03 AM


Early voting has started all over the country and I thought it might be interesting to track trends between this election and the 2016 election.

In Hidalgo County we have had eight days of in-person and six days of mail-in votes registered (no mail-in counts over the weekends) and still have ten more in-person early voting days and eight more mail-in voting days left.

For 2016 Hidalgo County saw 132421 in-person votes and 7409 mail-in votes for an Early Voting total of 139830.

So far we have had 95612 in-person votes but 12136 mail-in ballots for an Early Voting total so far of 107748.

We have already seen over three quarters of the total Early Ballots cast in 2016 and there are still ten days of in-person early voting and eight days of mail-in voting to go.

What's happening in your areas?


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Message 2 of 186 (882850)
10-21-2020 12:52 PM
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10-21-2020 10:03 AM


In California, I don't know how many ballots have been turned in so far. We're in the vote-by-mail phase right now with early voting in person starting later.

The calendar is:

  • 05 Oct -- Vote-by-Mail ballot mailing began. Every registered citizen gets a ballot in the mail. As soon as you receive your ballot, you can fill it out and submit it either by mail or in a drop box. There are 116 official drop boxes in Orange County (not including the many fake and felony-level-illegal drop boxes set up throughout the state by the state GOP). Most of the drop boxes are walk-up only, some are drive-thru only, and some are both drive-thru and walk-up.

  • 30 Oct through 03 Nov -- Vote Centers open for in-person early voting. There will be 151 Vote Centers in Orange County, 40 of them with a drive-thru drop-off option. They will be open from 8AM to 8PM on Friday through Monday and from 7AM to 8PM on Election Day.

Obviously, California is not one of the states engaged in voter suppression. To my knowledge, ballots received by mail after the election will still be counted if postmarked by Election Day, but don't push your luck on that. Also, my understanding is that California has started tallying the ballots as they come in so those figures should be available after the polls close on Election Day.

We do not need to jump through extra fine-print hoops to vote by mail. You fill out your ballot and place it into the return envelope. You write your name and address on the outside and sign and date it. When received, it's validated by comparing your signature with your signature on file. In contrast, some states have an extra "security envelope" that you put your ballot into to keep it secret and not using that "security envelope" can result in your ballot being rejected -- California keeps your vote secret by verifying the unopened envelope at one station and, if it verifies, then passing it to another station to open it and extract the ballot. Also, some of the other states require witnesses to your signing or even having it notarized (requiring that you find a pay a notary public, which sounds oddly like a poll tax).

In addition, you can track the status of your mail-in ballot in order to see if there were any problems; eg, problems verifying your signature, problems with your registration status. That way, if there was a problem then you can try to get it corrected. Obviously, the earlier you get your ballot submitted, the better your chance to correct any problem. I dropped mine off on Saturday, 10 Oct, and verified it as having been processed by the next Tuesday.

NBC reports that out of 20,430,665 ballots issued in California, 4,152,614 ballots have been returned in California so far: 56% Democrat, 21% Republican, 23% Other. So about a fifth of the votes are in so far.


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Message 3 of 186 (882851)
10-21-2020 3:03 PM
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10-21-2020 12:52 PM


dwise1 writes:

Obviously, California is not one of the states engaged in voter suppression.

Other than fake official ballot drop off boxes and someone dropping burning newspapers into real official drop off boxes?


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Message 4 of 186 (882852)
10-21-2020 3:33 PM
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10-21-2020 3:03 PM


That is the f*cking anti-American GOP traitor party doing that, not the state government itself.

I hadn't heard about setting fires. I have heard that DeJoy's next step in destroying the ability of the US Postal Service doing its job was to put an end to the Postal police who ensure the security of mailboxes, trucks, postal carriers, etc. He did that literally the day after he said under oath he wouldn't do anything more to screw up the works. OK, the orders don't follow a clear path back to him, yet, but to still do your job as a postal cop you need to get special permission from the very top.

ABE:

The destruction of ballot drop boxes and their contents is yet another reason to follow up on your vote. Go to your registrar's website (eg, ocvote.com here in Orange County) and track your ballot. If it is not received, then follow up. Submit and verify.

Edited by dwise1, : ABE


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Message 5 of 186 (882853)
10-21-2020 4:04 PM
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But there is no chain of control or accountability for any ballots collected in the fake and unofficial ballot boxes; nothing to prevent selective disappearance or destruction of those ballots or really anyway to even police them.

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Message 6 of 186 (882856)
10-21-2020 8:20 PM
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10-21-2020 4:04 PM


However, if you inquire at the official gov't site for your ballot's status and they have no record that it had shown up, then you would know that something had happened and you could then ask for a new ballot. Or else know that you would need to show up in person. There may be no way to track down what had happened, but at the very least you would know that something had happened.

Now, as for your "selective disappearance or destruction of those ballots", that would require malfeasance by the government itself or at least by individuals involved in processing ballots. That is not what we are talking about, nor would fake or vandalized (eg, by fire as you described) ballot boxes fall under this category.

From an MSNBC segment from 08 Sep 2020, here is how Orange County, Calif, does it:

And here is a video by the Orange County Registrar of Voters from 2013:

Of course, we are an example of a state and county dedicated to running an election correctly. Unfortunately, there are states and counties who are dedicated to fixing elections (eg, how GA's Kemp fixed his own election in 2018 with massive registration purges just before the election).

One solution would be for the Biden Administration to pass a new Voting Rights Act that the new rigged Supreme Court couldn't f*ck up.


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Message 7 of 186 (882857)
10-21-2020 8:56 PM


In Arizona I vote by mail. When not in Arizona, well, I still vote by mail. OK, I don't leave Arizona 'cept for a few weeks a year and I don't live anywhere else like the snowbirds we have around these parts do, so I don't vote anywhere but here and I do that by mail.

Maricopa County sent me my ballot in the mail.

Actually, they sent me both an e-mail and a text message telling me they sent my ballot to me and, presto, magico, it showed up in my mailbox not two days later.

I am a conscientious voter and yes, I admit, I even research those "Judgeships - retain/remove" on the back along with the justice of this peace here and a justice of that piece over there and, well, so it goes.

I seal my appropriately marked ballot in its designated, pre-numbered, etched into the electoral aether of Maricopa County, recorded and registered Special Ballot Mailing Envelope. In this day of plague we really get to lick the envelope closed. Well, unless you have a sponge.

The hard part is finding an appropriate pen with which to affix my signature within the designated big red box on the back. These types of rituals have a significance far above the station of a mere ink pen. This required a name brand BIC.

I have a postal substation right up the road where I can slide my ballot envelope surreptitiously shrouded by the fog of the early-evening mist unnoticed into the "Metered" drop box directly and have my escape.

So the last time I did this was this past Sunday.

Tuesday morning I had my messages from Maricopa County saying they had received my envelope and was in signature verification.

This morning (Wednesday) I received messages from Maricopa County saying they had verified my signature and my ballot has been counted.

This is the way it's supposed to be.

I'm satisfied. I am empowered. I am SuperCitizen! I voted.


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Message 8 of 186 (882901)
10-24-2020 2:12 PM
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10-21-2020 8:56 PM


Got Er Done
Me too. One less chore left to do on Octobers list.

I threw away all campaign ads from both sides and just sat down and read the ballot, plus the explanatory blue book that came with it.

Its all up to the people now. And may the Christian prophets be wrong.


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Message 9 of 186 (882902)
10-24-2020 3:07 PM
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Re: Got Er Done
Phat writes:

And may the Christian prophets be wrong.

They have never been right, accurate or truthful.


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Message 10 of 186 (882903)
10-24-2020 4:51 PM
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Re: Got Er Done
And may the Christian prophets be wrong.

After two millennia of this crap we already know Christian is wrong ... prophets or otherwise.


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Message 11 of 186 (882912)
10-24-2020 9:26 PM


looking hopeful
It looks like we will see more people vote early in Hidalgo County than the total number of votes cast during all of the 2016 General Election.

Regardless of the outcome it's nice to see so many people actually vote.


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Message 12 of 186 (882913)
10-25-2020 2:37 AM
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10-24-2020 3:07 PM


Kim Clement
Kim Clement, who barely lived to see Trumps first victory, prophesied that Trump would get two terms....years before Trump was even running for office.

I would argue that this man knew things that happened in the future after he said it.

And these dates are accurate. The tapes are not doctored.


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“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Message 13 of 186 (882914)
10-25-2020 3:50 AM
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Re: Kim Clement
You're kidding right? You actually believe that shit? No wonder the world is in the state it's in when people listen to that kind of open manipulation.

What will you say if Trump is not re-elected?

(I note that Bill Gate has not funded the Christian Churches of America which was also his prediction.)

And these dates are accurate. The tapes are not doctored.

How do you know?


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Message 14 of 186 (882915)
10-25-2020 4:32 AM
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Re: Kim Clement
Kim Clement, who barely lived to see Trumps first victory,

I don't care about dead prophets. They are suckers and losers. I only listen to live prophets.


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Message 15 of 186 (882916)
10-25-2020 7:09 AM
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Re: Kim Clement
I rest my case. Look at the man's so called prophesies and it is obvious that the only thing working is the fact that his audience is incapable of thinking. And Hermann Candelaria is another classic Carny Shill.

They are great examples of the total perversion of so much of modern Christianity.


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