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jar
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Message 196 of 1110 (890204)
12-29-2021 2:08 PM


niece dances with Covid
My niece returned to work Monday after finishing her isolation after being exposed to someone with Covid-19.
And today was informed that the person she was working with yesterday tested positive for Covid-19.
Gives a whole new meaning to working 24 on/48 off.
Edited by jar, : No reason given.

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Message 197 of 1110 (890212)
12-29-2021 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by jar
12-29-2021 2:08 PM


Re: niece dances with Covid
With omicron's transmissibility, this thing is gonna go round massively, no matter what we do. The South African data suggests the cases drop after a certain point, however. The fact that it's more transmissible, but much less deadly, is encouraging.
My best wishes for your niece and for everyone else here and their families - but hopefully a milder and more transmissible form of the disease will help build up herd immunity.
Fingers crossed for an easier future.
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Porkncheese
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Message 198 of 1110 (890698)
01-10-2022 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tangle
11-09-2020 8:31 AM


That article from November 2020 said
"The first effective coronavirus vaccine can prevent more than 90% of people from getting Covid-19, a preliminary analysis shows"
Fast forward 14 months and this is what we see in Australia...
Around the 1st of July 2021 Australias population was only 10% jabbed
Now they say 90% of Aussies are jabbed...
Look what happened to the case count... The vaxed are getting infected worse than ever before.
And look at what they locked down for... Nothing...
That is clear evidence that the experimental needles are not 90% effective at preventing covid. In fact we now know that a vaxed person can catch and spread covid providing no immunity at all... All that talk of herd immunity has been refuted... All that talk of the syringe ending the pandemic and bringing life back to normal has been refuted... And this fact is being confirmed as we speak in highly vaxed nations in the northern hemisphere
Now lets look at hospitalizations...
The msm says its mostly the unvaxed...
Alt media and medical staff whistle blowers say its mostly the vaxed...
The msm have lied to us so many times its surprising that some people are still falling for their deception
So not only did the experiment fail at stopping infection and transmission and cases and deaths and hospitalizations... It has made them worse... Much much worse...
But despite the irrefutable evidence the situation here in Australia is dire. They still continue to force the vax and persecute the unvaxed and now their giving it to children
Much more people were hurt by loss of jobs, loss of homes, poverty, starvation, health both physical and mental and lives due to suicides and abandoned elective surgeries than covid...
The reported side effects and deaths in Australia sits at about 80k and 2k but they only link 10 deaths to the jab... Ye sure...
Medical staff are being blackmailed not to say anything negative about the vax or they will loose their licenses. Censorship is the mark of communists and fascists
In the state of Victoria the unvaxed are being discriminated against like no where else... They can't work or go to many places... Its segregation... Its apartheid and there is no justification for it. If the vaccines work then there is no need for me to get jabbed but if they don't then the criminal actions taken by the government are uncalled for.
Meanwhile all we hear about is "safe and effective"... This is a blatant lie and malpractice that equates to murder... Any potential side effect should always be conveyed to the patient for them to make an informed decision.
And people say "well there are still more covid deaths than vax deaths" That is an abhorrent thing to say. Average age of covid death is 85yo... Its normal for such to die of natural causes... Its not normal for a young person to die of the vaccine... They are playing human sacrifice in the belief they will get more time on this earth
Then we have this current phenomenon of athletes collapsing on the pitch and/or dying... This used to be such a rare event but now it appears to be the new normal in the experimental syringe era... There is no other correlation but the injections but they are so eager to push these drugs that they won't even think about the possibility... Its horrifying...
To conclude i just want to say this... People can take the jab if they like but the government needs to leave the rest alone... Stop attacking our fundamental rights. Stop discriminating against us. Stop trying to force the injection onto us

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Message 199 of 1110 (890700)
01-10-2022 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 8:11 AM


Stop attacking our fundamental rights.
Stop ignoring your fundamental responsibility.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Porkncheese
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Message 200 of 1110 (890704)
01-10-2022 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by Tanypteryx
01-10-2022 8:47 AM


Your health is your responsibility, not mine

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Tanypteryx
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Message 201 of 1110 (890707)
01-10-2022 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 200 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 9:37 AM


Yeah, we all know you are terrified of needles and face masks, but it's way past time for you to act like a responsible adult.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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jar
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Message 202 of 1110 (890708)
01-10-2022 9:51 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by Tanypteryx
01-10-2022 9:42 AM


The NLMP point
It's sad but I have to admit that I have reached the NLMP point when it comes to Covid-19 and US society.
I'm fully vaccinated and will continue to get any new vaccine or booster that becomes available. I am retired and hunkered down and don't go into stores or bars or restaurants and wear N95 or KN95 masks and if in a close proximity situation, double masks, I wash my hands frequently and properly and will continue to do so.
I feel sorry for the kids too young to get vaccinated that do get sick and also all the working people who simply can't avoid potential exposure.
I recognize the human suffering and economic issues that exist and will show up related to Covid-19 and future pandemics.
But I'm old, fed up with the utter stupidity that seems so common in the US today and have to admit that it is No Longer My Problem.
I do all that I can without learning how to play the fiddle however I do have lots of hot dogs and marshmallows to roast over the fire.
Rome was pretty in the years before the fire.

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Porkncheese
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Message 203 of 1110 (890709)
01-10-2022 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by Tanypteryx
01-10-2022 9:42 AM


I am by not taking a dangerous experimental injection that has killed and disabled so many people
Edited by Porkncheese, : No reason given.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 204 of 1110 (890710)
01-10-2022 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 9:52 AM


I am by not taking a dangerous experimental injection that has killed and disabled so many people
Right, you're going with the experimental Covid virus that has killed millions and disabled millions more. Wise decision.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Porkncheese
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From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 205 of 1110 (890711)
01-10-2022 10:01 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Tanypteryx
01-10-2022 9:58 AM


Ive already had covid and was fine... Now i have natural immunity... Experimental injection not required

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Tanypteryx
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Message 206 of 1110 (890713)
01-10-2022 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by jar
01-10-2022 9:51 AM


Re: The NLMP point
Yep! We are doing pretty much exactly the same thing. I'm really glad I work on my own and can do almost everything digitally.
My wife has perfected online shopping and pickup and says she never wants to go back to in-store shopping.
We are all lucky for the frontline workers who are risking their lives to keep our country functioning, despite irresponsible assholes like Porky!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Porkncheese
Member (Idle past 268 days)
Posts: 198
From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 207 of 1110 (890714)
01-10-2022 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by Tanypteryx
01-10-2022 10:14 AM


Re: The NLMP point
How am i irresponsible?
And why be so rude for?
Edited by Porkncheese, : No reason given.

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jar
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Message 208 of 1110 (890715)
01-10-2022 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Porkncheese
01-10-2022 10:28 AM


Re: The NLMP point
Because you are willfully stupid and think that just because you claim to have had covid-19 you have immunity.
STUPIDITY writ large.
You might as well claim that because you had the flu or a cold you had natural immunity.
But as I said, your utter stupidity is No Longer My Problem.

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Porkncheese
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Posts: 198
From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 209 of 1110 (890716)
01-10-2022 10:53 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by jar
01-10-2022 10:39 AM


Re: The NLMP point
Uhh no, i had a covid antibody test. Im immune
Whats with the hostility... Is it because you have no valid argument...
Im reminded of this quote
"the further people stray from the truth the more they will hate those that speak it"
So then... Why should i risk death or disability from this experimental needle?

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Porkncheese
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Posts: 198
From: Australia
Joined: 08-25-2017


Message 210 of 1110 (890718)
01-10-2022 11:04 AM


Hypochondria
The world is full of hypochondriacs now...
Irrational fear...
Anxiety...
Anger...
Aggression...
Given the facts ive presented, why should i take a risk with the shot?
Anyone?

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