Kleinman writes:
The power that Fauci has was used extremely poorly. He misled Biden about vaccines and Fauci never corrected his blunder which any third-year medical student could understand was a blunder.
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Fauci has not corrected his blunder. And then Fauci is confused by the psychodynamics of a large part of the population.
Repeating mistaken information over and over doesn't make it any less mistaken.
If you don't understand the effects of comorbidities on a superimposed respiratory infection, you won't ever understand this. What happened with all the expert advisors that Cuomo had? Didn't any of his expert advisors understand that there might be a problem putting covid patients in with people with comorbidities?
Yes, Kleinman, we know. No one understands anything except you.
You have no evidence that a great many covid deaths were of people with comorbidities who would have died within 2 to 3 years anyway. You'll just have to wait for the data on excess deaths.
Explain why the yellow line is labeled "Counties with a mandate" and that line starts at the same time as the maroon line.
The yellow line represents those counties that adopted a mandate on July 1. The yellow line prior to July 1 is for the exact same counties as after July 1.
And why is the yellow line higher than the maroon line from before July until almost October?
You asked this once already and the answer hasn't changed. There's not enough data in the graph to answer that question, but one possible answer is that they're denser more urban counties where spread is faster.
A question you didn't ask was about the maroon line's sudden peak in the May/June timeframe. There's not enough data to answer that question, either.
But
Trends in County-Level COVID-19 Incidence in Counties With and Without a Mask Mandate — Kansas, June 1–August 23, 2020 | MMWR tells us that as on July 1, 2020, 24 Kansas counties adopted mask mandates and 81 did not. Those 24 counties accounted for 67.3% of the Kansas population, and 6 of them representing 25% of the state's population were metropolitan. This means my surmise that the counties with mask mandates tended to be more urban was correct. The article also stated that counties with mask mandates were also more likely to adopt other measures, such as limits of gatherings and the occupancy limits for restaurants.
WHy don't you read that quote in context? Do you think you can make society generous by writing a law? You are very naive.
Healthcare was the context, not generosity, but if that's why you said it then fine. The question remains, what do you think society's goals should be regarding healthcare?
Why are you so afraid that somebody might say something that counters your naive thinking?
What have you got against staying on topic?
Hasn't anyone explained the sympathetic nervous system to you?
The actual question was that if fear of illness renders drug company profits inappropriate, then doesn't fear of guns render gun industry profits inappropriate?
If you'd like to discuss gun control then you're in the wrong topic.
Sure, I check things out. I've learned that so-called experts don't always get it right.
And yet all you're able to do is cast unsupported aspersions without ever backing them up with actual data.
It would never enter your mind that corrupted people would work to hide the data that reveals their corruption. You are naive.
That's the most common quality of conspiracy theories: unverifiability. For conspiracy theorists, lack of evidence is proof something is true.
Percy:
Yes. And your point is?
Has anyone died with coronavirus and also had comorbidities before the covid episode?
That's not a point, that's a question. Do you have a point?
You still haven't posted his quote. But that's your modus operandi. You post a quote from someone that doesn't say what Scott Jensen said, and that's enough for you.
You're the only one talking about a quote. I did post an excerpt from a Fox News item saying Jensen was banned from TikTok for "spreading misinformation on COVID-19 guidelines."
Are you really that naive that people do things to influence you.
You're still replying to things only you said. You have this strange habit of claiming people believe things they've never said and then asking or commenting about it. You're basically having a conversation with yourself.
Cuomo prevented people from making decisions that could have prevented thousands of deaths no matter how you want to spin it.
There's no evidence for that, either. What we do know is that Cuomo prevented nursing homes from including covid status as a part of making admission decisions, and that he hid the data about nursing home covid deaths. According to
New York COVID-19 nursing home scandal - Wikipedia, the Cuomo administration purposefully omitted 9250 elderly covid deaths from a state health department report. I was unable to find how many of those deaths were determined to be due to the Cuomo policy.
You seem to believe that Cuomo's grave misconduct means you can just make up other stuff. But what Cuomo actually did was bad enough all by itself (don't forget the sexual harassment). There's no need to make stuff up.
You hear what you want to hear. You are ripe to get a booster for the booster. Does that make you saved twice over?
Spoken like a true anti-vaxxer.
Haven't you figured out yet that both vaccinated and un-vaccinated people can spread the virus? We should lock everyone up in solitary confinement. That would solve the problem.
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Don't you know that electric cars will save the planet?
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Oh, pardon me, I didn't know that bringing up the laws of physics, mathematics, and experimental and empirical evidence was misbehaving. I'll have to learn that reptiles evolve into birds and fish evolve into mammals and say, "Everybody knows that" because that is how biologists practice science.
You are still responding to things only you said. I hope you're enjoying the conversation with yourself.
Kleinman:
...and scream about global warming and the sea level rising while Obama buys a house on the beach.
Percy:
The elevation of the house itself is only 8 feet. On the surface it doesn't seem like a prudent purchase, but I don't know any of the weather related history.
It's a typical example of "do as I say, not as I do".
Why don't you quote Obama telling people not to buy beach property? As I said, it doesn't seem like a prudent purchase. It's well known in these parts that Martha's Vineyard will likely suffer severe impacts from climate change, some think sooner rather than later.
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