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Tangle
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Message 16 of 25 (883366)
12-01-2020 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
12-01-2020 2:15 PM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
Phat writes:

I still predict that the supernatural (AKA The Unexplained) will become evident in the next few years.

I guarantee that it won't.

You're just following the ancient wish fulfilment of every generation of fundies for thousands of years.

“Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all has taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."

Want a bet?

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NosyNed
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Message 17 of 25 (883367)
12-01-2020 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
12-01-2020 2:15 PM


What's real?
But for the record, I do believe that global warming is real.

After the weird mish mash up there I'm confused. Just what do you think is "real" about global warming?

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Phat
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Message 18 of 25 (883370)
12-02-2020 1:37 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by NosyNed
12-01-2020 8:08 PM


Re: What's real?
Ned writes:

Just what do you think is "real" about global warming?

The science is quite clear regarding inevitable rise in sea levels over the next century. The stats line up, in other words.

Knowing their knack for investing, I think that Republicans who publicly deny global warming are even now buying up the real estate where the sea levels will rise to.


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Message 19 of 25 (883371)
12-02-2020 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Phat
12-01-2020 2:15 PM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
Phat writes:

... all we have is subjective shared experience.


You don't have a "shared subjective experience". You each have your own individual subjective experiences. As long as your individual experiences disagree with reality, you pretend you're all together but all you really share is a hatred for reality.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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Message 20 of 25 (883373)
12-02-2020 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by ringo
12-02-2020 11:24 AM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
You can claim to know this but I disagree with your grasp of the situation.
1) You have no belief nor subjective evidence of the Holy Spirit. Yet the Holy Spirit *is* reality. Not that you will ever see it.
2) Perhaps you can logically argue that we all have our own experience...which is true, but the fact that so many of our experiences are very similar in detail...down to the little things...is to me subjective evidence. We dont simply internalize and repeat each others stories...we have our own and they are external experience rather than internal imagination. But again....you likely refuse to accept nor understand.
As long as your individual experiences disagree with reality, you pretend you're all together but all you really share is a hatred for reality.
This is one of the most blatant and ignorant statements that you have ever said. Just because your conclusions were what they were is in no way indicative that *you* understand reality.

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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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ringo
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Message 21 of 25 (883374)
12-02-2020 12:05 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Phat
12-02-2020 11:51 AM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
Phat writes:

You have no belief nor subjective evidence of the Holy Spirit.


I have as much "subjective experience" of the Holy Spirit as you do.

Phat writes:

the fact that so many of our experiences are very similar in detail..


The fact is that they're not. You try to cobble them together to resemble each other after the fact.

Phat writes:

But again....you likely refuse to accept nor understand.


I refuse to jump to conclusions like you do.

Phat writes:

This is one of the most blatant and ignorant statements that you have ever said.


And yet you have no argument against it. All you have is denial.

Phat writes:

Just because your conclusions were what they were is in no way indicative that *you* understand reality.


But it isn't *my* understanding. It's collective understanding.

"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing

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jar
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Message 22 of 25 (883375)
12-02-2020 1:15 PM
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12-02-2020 11:51 AM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
Phat writes:

You have no belief nor subjective evidence of the Holy Spirit. Yet the Holy Spirit *is* reality. Not that you will ever see it.

If that were true Phat you would be able to show verifiable evidence of its existence but neither you or anyone else has ever been able to do so!

And THAT is reality!

Phat writes:

Perhaps you can logically argue that we all have our own experience...which is true, but the fact that so many of our experiences are very similar in detail...down to the little things...is to me subjective evidence. We dont simply internalize and repeat each others stories...we have our own and they are external experience rather than internal imagination.

As does every Hindu and Satanist and Muslim and Jew and ...

You seem to be unable to understand what evidence is.

Phat writes:

ringo writes:

As long as your individual experiences disagree with reality, you pretend you're all together but all you really share is a hatred for reality.

This is one of the most blatant and ******** statements that you have ever said. Just because your conclusions were what they were is in no way indicative that *you* understand reality.

Unfortunately Phat you are just showing your willful disregard for reality when you say something as silly as that.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 23 of 25 (883376)
12-02-2020 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Phat
12-02-2020 11:51 AM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
What does any of your BS have to do with the topic?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Phat
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Message 24 of 25 (883377)
12-02-2020 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Tanypteryx
12-02-2020 1:48 PM


Re: It's The Methane,Stupid
You are right---it doesn't. I went off topic right after Nosy Ned.

My apologies.We were discussing methane and permafrost melt, which is somewhat on topic.

Does our resident dragonfly expert have anything to add regarding perhaps dead bugs, microbes and what is found deep in the earths crust?

Here is where we went off course. Message 15

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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 25 of 25 (883828)
01-13-2021 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Phat
11-30-2020 3:08 PM


Re: Implications In Human Development?
On a somewhat related topic, I read that because of global warming the arctic permafrost is melting and potentially releasing lots of previously frozen virus, bacteria, and ancient goop that could infect living things again. Is this in any way true?

This is a different topic. The Siljan crater was formed about 360 million years ago, during the Devonian period; at that time what is now Sweden was in the tropics, not in the Arctic.


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