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Author Topic:   Is witness testimony really to be never taken seriously? Ever?
AZPaul3
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Message 9 of 21 (883511)
12-11-2020 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by coffee_addict
12-11-2020 8:18 AM


bullshit
Why? Why does the internet do this? Why do humans do this?

Such bullshit piled on bullshit layered on more bullshit.

Evidence of this fairy tale is non-existent. And the evidence of physical law precludes most of this crap from being probable let alone actual.

Credentials mean nothing. Evidence rules over accomplishment and no such evidence is presented. The Lord Kelvin is dead and authority can no longer dictate results. Evidence. Evidence required.

Laud his history all you want, it means nothing without the most extraordinary evidence for this most extraordinary claim.

Nothing supernatural here. Evidently nothing real here either.

It’s bullshit! I call bullshit. I call big bullshit.

Show me his evidence. All of it. If he can’t … he has nothing. Go home.

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AZPaul3
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Message 11 of 21 (883513)
12-11-2020 3:31 PM
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12-11-2020 8:55 AM


Re: Why was Trump even notified?
Now that we're done with this Israeli alien let's move on to testimony and evidence.

Eye witness testimony can be evidence but only when accompanied by other physical evidence in support. Problems with such testimony usually center on its heavy reliance on subjective selective memory, ulterior motives and just plain human error.

Still, eye witness testimony can be valuable in informing where physical evidence may be and its form.

Three witnesses testify that Mr. A and Mr. B went into a room, shut the door, a shot was heard and out walked Mr. A while Mr. B lay on the floor dead. If this is the only testimony available then there is only a subjective conclusion that can be reached. If the cops find a gun with fingerprint and DNA that do NOT match the alleged perp THAT hard non-subjective evidence takes precedence over all three eye witnesses.

Yes, eye witness testimony is valuable in showing probability, but, any hard physical evidence rules regardless of the testimony of the witnesses.

Expert witnesses of professional standing can certainly sway an argument but, yet again, any hard physical evidence takes precedence over any such testimony.

Why/how would 3 different groups of people who didn't know each other make up the same story about some woman through the same windows?

Don't know. Not enough evidence to reach a viable conclusion. But what we do know from millennia of experience and research is that it most probably isn't a ghost. Well, at least not Casper with his big barrel of popcorn. But, probably not a ghost or an alien or a disembodied energy orb evolved from the advanced evolution of some cockroaches.

Why would someone with a boat load of credentials all of a sudden make up crackpot claims about aliens just for book sales?

eh ... for the book sales?

... or ...

... the same brilliant intellectual disconnect that happened to Fred Hoyle?


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Message 12 of 21 (883514)
12-11-2020 3:45 PM
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12-11-2020 2:25 PM


Re: bullshit
You see a snake, you stomp on it.

To you the topic may be testimony which I hope I've answered in a crossing post. To me it's grandiose claims of improbable events without the foundation of evidence.

This is precisely the kind of BS that gets too much publicity as probable in our culture. It is the epitome of sloppy critical thinking. This crap story should not even be in the cultural imagination of our species. It is crap.

That must be dealt with before any other consideration.

Sorry to blow up your thread but there are some intellectual poisons that must be countered at every turn.

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Message 14 of 21 (883517)
12-11-2020 4:42 PM
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12-11-2020 4:28 PM


Re: Why was Trump even notified?
I'm just not sure why such visual hallucinations should manifest as a female figure.

Maybe a pareidolic mirage from the reflections in the windows? Interesting. And maybe a periodic event nearby, like a small tremor or a little used bridge, that sets off the initial vibrations?

Oh, to be a multi-billionaire with nothing to do. Like to set up some equipment for a while.


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