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Theodoric
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Message 526 of 610 (893515)
04-15-2022 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 525 by AZPaul3
04-15-2022 1:44 PM


Re: Good Grief its Friday
I am a big fan of PZ. He exudes reasonableness.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 527 of 610 (893516)
04-15-2022 2:57 PM


My favorite Easter joke.
Did you hear they canceled Easter?

They found the body.


What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


  
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Message 528 of 610 (893522)
04-15-2022 4:31 PM


To Commemorate the Event

Nailed it.


Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

  
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Message 529 of 610 (893587)
04-17-2022 9:06 AM


He Is Risen

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

  
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Message 530 of 610 (893588)
04-17-2022 9:36 AM


Justification: Impeccable Reasoning

Enjoy your easter fantasies. Choke on an egg.


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Message 531 of 610 (893616)
04-17-2022 3:22 PM
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04-17-2022 9:36 AM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
we need to do an exorcism on you today. Your anti-theist demon is gleefully mocking the Spirit with a feisty ornery spirit of his own. Stop by the Cathedral and we have an extra gallon of holy water with which to scrub you. You need to bring no alms. We consider it a public service.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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AZPaul3
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Message 532 of 610 (893619)
04-17-2022 3:50 PM
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04-17-2022 3:22 PM


Exorcism
Not going to work. The demons all left me yelling and screaming when I vanquished Elohim and his whole mob from the universe when I was 16. Should have seen the looks on their faces. Oblivion did not agree with them at all. They won't be back.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 533 of 610 (893620)
04-17-2022 4:01 PM
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04-17-2022 3:22 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
You're a Catholic nutjob?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 534 of 610 (893621)
04-17-2022 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 533 by Theodoric
04-17-2022 4:01 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
Holy Water is not a Roman Catholic exclusive. There are protestant denominations that also use consecrated water in specific settings.

A good example is the Rite of Baptism from the Book of Common Prayer.

Thanksgiving over the Water

The Celebrant blesses the water, first saying
The Lord be with you.
People And also with you.
Celebrant Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.
People It is right to give him thanks and praise.

Celebrant

We thank you, Almighty God, for the gift of water.
Over it the Holy Spirit moved in the beginning of creation.
Through it you led the children of Israel out of their bondage
in Egypt into the land of promise. In it your Son Jesus
received the baptism of John and was anointed by the Holy
Spirit as the Messiah, the Christ, to lead us, through his death
and resurrection, from the bondage of sin into everlasting life.

We thank you, Father, for the water of Baptism. In it we are
buried with Christ in his death. By it we share in his
resurrection. Through it we are reborn by the Holy Spirit.
Therefore in joyful obedience to your Son, we bring into his
fellowship those who come to him in faith, baptizing them in
the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

At the following words, the Celebrant touches the water

Now sanctify this water, we pray you, by the power of your
Holy Spirit, that those who here are cleansed from sin and
born again may continue for ever in the risen life of Jesus
Christ our Savior.

To him, to you, and to the Holy Spirit, be all honor and
glory, now and for ever. Amen.


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Theodoric
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Message 535 of 610 (893622)
04-17-2022 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 534 by jar
04-17-2022 4:27 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
It was that and Cathedral that got me to Catholic.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AZPaul3
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Message 536 of 610 (893623)
04-17-2022 4:54 PM
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04-17-2022 4:27 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
I use tap water. Refill old water bottles, the ones with the sports tops, and keep them in the fridge. I have six of them. A couple of them are getting on 10 years old.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 537 of 610 (893628)
04-17-2022 5:47 PM
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04-17-2022 4:51 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
Ah, but Cathedral is also not a Roman Catholic exclusive.

The National Cathedral in DC is Episcopalian (and one of the grotesques is Darth Vader).


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Phat
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Message 538 of 610 (893668)
04-18-2022 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 533 by Theodoric
04-17-2022 4:01 PM


Re: Justification: Impeccable Reasoning
Now you know better than that.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 539 of 610 (893671)
04-18-2022 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 532 by AZPaul3
04-17-2022 3:50 PM


Re: Exorcism
16 tear-old fantasies don't count. You may well have become an anti theist when the demons tricked you into seeing Elohim as the bad guy, but you had neither the mental capacity nor the spiritual "knowledge built up from your fantasy reading to accomplish such a feat. Good try though.

Looks like we may need to ambush you with the holy water. or perhaps we could disguise it and simply encourage you to drink it. Where is our squirrelly little Mr.Deity when we need him?


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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AZPaul3
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Message 540 of 610 (893675)
04-18-2022 9:56 AM
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04-18-2022 8:54 AM


WOTMQ
16 tear-old fantasies don't count.

Yes, mine did count since my mental capacity at 16 was far above even the most learned of gods. I was surprised how weak, sad and non-existent the gods were when I kicked them out.

As for your offer of holy water, I just refilled all my water bottles and won't need to refill again for about a week, but thanks, when I get low I'll contact you.

Where is our squirrelly little Mr.Deity when we need him?

Right here, Phat. You do know you can get your Mr. Deity fix on YouTube any time you want, right?

WOTMQ: He Is Risen! So what?

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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