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AZPaul3
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Message 556 of 610 (894287)
05-11-2022 2:15 AM
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Re: Which Forum?
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God
You know the level of intellect in a discussion of antifa and god has fallen below standards when one poster actually believes both exist.

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Message 557 of 610 (894288)
05-11-2022 2:20 AM
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Re: Prayer For The Universe
ringo writes:
in the early church, all goods were owned in common by the members.
As the Church expanded, that communal system became untenable, except for maybe a few small Christian communities that chose to live that way.
If Jesus preached that all Christians must live in communes and hand over all their possessions and money, that's what the Catholic Church would teach ... but it doesn't, so he didn't.

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Message 558 of 610 (894289)
05-11-2022 2:41 AM
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Re: Which Forum?
How come so many of the Loony Left are atheists?
Is there some kind of link between atheism and madness, do you think?

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Message 559 of 610 (894291)
05-11-2022 3:01 AM
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Re: Which Forum?
Not madness but there is the well documented phenomenon linking high religious fervor to low intellectual ability.

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Message 560 of 610 (894292)
05-11-2022 5:36 AM
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05-11-2022 3:01 AM


Re: Which Forum?
That explains atheism but what on earth explains antitheism??

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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Message 561 of 610 (894294)
05-11-2022 8:54 AM
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why someone might be anti-theist
Phat writes:
That explains atheism but what on earth explains antitheism??
That is easy. ALL of the evidence that is the historic behavior of so called theists should be enough to justify anti-theism. And unfortunately no religion, no movement, no government has been more effective at murder, rape and genocide than Christianity.

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Message 562 of 610 (894296)
05-11-2022 10:04 AM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
jar writes:
ALL of the evidence that is the historic behavior of so called theists should be enough to justify anti-theism. And unfortunately no religion, no movement, no government has been more effective at murder, rape and genocide than Christianity.
Estimates of the death toll due to Communist regimes in the twentieth-century are in the range of 60-150 million. Thank you, atheism.
Pol Pot's Communist regime - the Khmer Rouge - was perhaps the most insane and most bloodthirsty bunch of atheists who ever lived. In a mere four years, they slaughtered a quarter of Cambodia's population ... all in the name of "equality"!! The Loony Left strikes again.

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Message 563 of 610 (894297)
05-11-2022 10:10 AM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
Jesus was a communist and the Communist death tolls pale to insignificance when compared to Christian Genocide.

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Message 564 of 610 (894298)
05-11-2022 10:18 AM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
jar writes:
Jesus was a communist and the Communist death tolls pale to insignificance when compared to Christian Genocide.
Really? What is your estimate of the death toll due to "the Christian Genocide"?

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Message 565 of 610 (894299)
05-11-2022 10:28 AM
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05-11-2022 10:18 AM


Re: why someone might be anti-theist
Far too big to count. But ask any Native American or Druid or any other religious body.
Christianity has not just been the most efficient genocidal organization it has also been the longest lasting and still the biggest current genocidal threat.
AbE:
The problem is that the vast majority of Christians are too dishonest to actually admit just how evil Christianity has been and is still today.

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Message 566 of 610 (894300)
05-11-2022 10:56 AM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
Why restrict it to Christians? Are you trying to claim that Christians are the only theists?
270 million deaths are attributed to Islam. They're theists too by anybody's definition. Except according to Christians, apparently.
 
Hmm. Are you one of those who define atheism as not believing in the Christian god? Such that if you're not a Christian then you're an atheist? I have heard and seen that sentiment expressed, so it makes me wonder.
Kind of like Dr. Henry Morris in defining the "atheistic" "evolution model" of their overarching Two Model Approach strategy: "It includes most of the world's religions, ancient and modern." So creationists classify the vast majority of theism as "atheism"? Curiouser and curiouser.

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Message 567 of 610 (894301)
05-11-2022 11:31 AM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
dwise1 writes:
Why restrict it to Christians? Are you trying to claim that Christians are the only theists?

270 million deaths are attributed to Islam. They're theists too by anybody's definition. Except according to Christians, apparently.
Hilarious. You couldn't provide any evidence to support your idiotic claim that "the Communist death tolls pale to insignificance when compared to Christian Genocide", so you moved the goal-posts to Islam.
Incidentally, you can criticize Islam all you like - it's a demonic cult of fear and violence and has been from the very beginning. But which bs-artist gave you the ridiculous figure of 270 million deaths attributed to Islam? That's 50 MILLION MORE than TWICE the number of deaths attribited both World Wars (60 million) PLUS the Spanish Flu (50 million)!!
Are you really that gullible?

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Message 568 of 610 (894302)
05-11-2022 12:31 PM
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05-11-2022 5:36 AM


Re: Which Forum?
but what on earth explains antitheism?
Personally, I am not anti-theist.
The behavior of theists probably explains anti-theism.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 569 of 610 (894304)
05-11-2022 2:04 PM
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Re: why someone might be anti-theist
dwise1 writes:
But ask any Native American or Druid or any other religious body.
The demise of Native Americans had nothing to do with religion - it was all about land.
As for Druids, please criticize those pagan savages to your heart's content. I have no intention of defending pagan religions, esp ones that practised human sacrifice, which is demonically-inspired.
Of course you wouldn't be interested in the fact that wherever Christianity became dominant, it put an end to human sacrifice and other horrendous pagan customs.

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Message 570 of 610 (894306)
05-11-2022 2:44 PM
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05-11-2022 2:04 PM


Re: why someone might be anti-theist
Bullshit.
It was genocide and the Native American religion and way of life, even their hair style, languages, culture and dress were forbidden.
It was in every way another genocide just as was true with every new culture encountered.
And Christianity is the most successful practitioner of human sacrifice ever.

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