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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
The Way Of The (Mousey)Mister had a good show featuring the atheist apologist, Alex O'Conner.(Cosmic Skeptic)
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
How could there be an atheist apologist? There are no doctrines to apologize for. ... the atheist apologist, Alex O'Conner.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1
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Learn the meaning of words before you use them.
Apologetics - WikipediaWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Theodoric writes: Learn the meaning of words before you use them. Another good term to learn when watching Christian apologetics YouTube videos.
Psychological Projection
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
ringo writes: In this instance, I am using the word as synonymous with "defense of".. The only person you will have to apologize to will be God Himself. How could there be an atheist apologist? There are no doctrines to apologize for.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
But that is not what the word means.
This is what the word means. quote: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Interesting! I like learning new stuff...if only I can remember it!
Wiki writes: Psychological projection is the process of misinterpreting what is "inside" as coming from "outside".[1] It forms the basis of empathy by the projection of personal experiences to understand someone else's subjective world.[1] In its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing untold interpersonal damage.[2] A bully may project their own feelings of vulnerability onto the target, or a person who is confused may project feelings of confusion and inadequacy onto other people. Projection incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.[3] Projection has been described as an early phase of introjection.[4] Study of apologetics has enhanced my world view and thinking process, exposing deficiencies as well as strengths.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
OK. In my mind, Alex O'Connor is more in defense of Logic vs Logical fallacies. He simply likes to argue. Mr. Deity held his own, though.
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1 |
Phat writes: Study of apologetics has enhanced my world view and thinking process, exposing deficiencies as well as strengths. In this case, the Christian apologist is projecting his own beliefs onto the atheist. Since the Christian apologist is trying to defend religious doctrines the apologist assumes the atheist is doing the same, which they are not. Atheism is not a religion and has no doctrines.
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
I would assert that atheism in general defends secular humanism as a superior worldview. Then again, what do I know?
The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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Taq Member Posts: 10302 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Phat writes: I would assert that atheism in general defends secular humanism as a superior worldview. It doesn't. Atheism is just the lack of belief in deities. That's it. An atheist can reject secular humanism and still be an atheist. If the title said something about a secular humanist apologist it might be closer to the truth, but even then secular humanism is not a religion nor does it have religious doctrines.
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
That's what i said. There are no doctrines to defend. Phat writes:
In this instance, I am using the word as synonymous with "defense of".. How could there be an atheist apologist? There are no doctrines to apologize for.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
How about learning new stuff BEFORE you blather on about it as if you DID know what you were talking about?
I like learning new stuff... Phat writes:
But you refuse to discuss apologetics. Study of apologetics...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Phat Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
But you refuse to discuss apologetics. You dismiss all of them as goobers before I can defend the arguments. I'll start again, though. I'm not done dodging your six shooters quite yet.The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894). When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022 We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed
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ringo Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
How does that prevent you from defending the arguments? You dismiss all of them as goobers before I can defend the arguments.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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