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marc9000
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Message 141 of 438 (884389)
02-14-2021 6:00 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by Phat
02-13-2021 7:40 PM


Re: Critical thinking warning: Don't let politicians conflate protesting with violence.
Hello there, Mr Phat, let us go a round or two.
A case was made by both the defense and prosecution. Either side had a valid argument, though I favor the prosecution. Trump went out of bounds for good form by an acting president. He was irresponsible.
A calamity of events, all combined, cost Trump his second term. If any one of them had been missing, he'd have handily won another term. The two main events were; 1) the Covid pandemic with all the biased reporting and sensationalism it received from the mainstream media, and 2) the amazing cover-up by the mainstream media of the NY Post story a few weeks before the election, of the Hunter Biden/Joe Biden corruption during his vice presidency. Some organization, maybe MRC (I can't remember for sure) claimed that it's surveys showed that a small, but significant percentage of Biden voters wouldn't have voted for him if they'd known about it. The network news, with its over-the-air reach that cable news and the internet don't have, have a big influence over information cover-ups.
I agree with you that Trump was irresponsible, in the last few months of his presidency, I thought he should have conceded sooner than he did. But I don't think that his behavior was anywhere near the level of impeachment. He didn't commit perjury like Bill Clinton did.
Did you watch the defense make their case? Did you see the videos they showed of some past behavior of Democrat congressmen and senators? Did you see any irresponsibility there? I know the knee-jerk reaction is that they weren't on trial, they weren't president etc. but if you'll hear me out - the charge against Trump was that he inspired the capitol insurrection even though it's a fact that most of the people there traveled there days before Trump's speech, and that bombs were planted before the speech. But everything to do with the insurrection happened well after countless Democrats said inflamitory things about civil unrest. Let's look at three of them, that were all included in the defense's videos;
quote:
Chuck Schumer; "I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions."
Are we supposed to believe that only Democrats heard this - that the nutcases who attacked the capitol didn't hear it, and weren't inspired by it? I haven't noticed anyone in the news pressing him to find out just what he meant. Did he mean they'll pay the price at the ballot box? No, they have lifetime appointments. Did he mean they'll pay a monetary price in....a reduction in pay? How could that logically and legally happen? I don't see that as an implication for anything lawful, can you? If so, I'd like to know what it could be. All I saw was an unlawful threat, of physical violence against him or his family or property.
Here's the link for that, it was reported on March 4th 2020.
realclearpolitics.com
Now for Pelosi, this was reported on 7-9-20.
quote:
QUESTION: Should not be done by--respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?
PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's a--it is--I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down if the community doesn't want it.
realclearpolitics.com
Her only concern seemed to be from a safety standpoint, not about the fact that it was a CRIME. Same questions as above, was it impossible for capitol insurrectionists to not see her say "people will do what they do", and not be inspired by it?
Number 3, Chris Cuomo.
quote:
"Please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful."
realclearpolitics.com#!
Is there a scenario where a protest can be NOT polite and peaceful and still be legal? I don't see any, do you? Again, same question as above, were not capitol insurrectionists inspired by Cuomo's statement?
Did Trump's words "peacefully and patriotically" inspire the capitol insurrection more than the dozens and dozens of documented public speeches by Democrats over the past year? Of course many people didn't know about Trump's words "peacefully and patriotically" because the news media covered them up each night of "evening news reports" for several weeks before the trial. I watched the Trump defense lawyers present their case on my local ABC station, wondering how they were going to dance and cover up on their evening news report, the same things that were shown plain as day on their network only hours before. They didn't disappoint, while the video of the Democrats the defense showed dozens of Democrats saying "FIGHT LIKE HELL, FIGHT LIKE HELL, FIGHT LIKE HELL, FIGHT LIKE HELL, over and over and over again, their evening reports only said Democrats said "fight" many times, they only reserved the "fight like hell" quote to Trump. I must admit, they did show, just that one time, where Trump said "peacefully and patriotically" unlike any of their news reports each of many evenings before. You may notice that Schumer, Pelosi, Cuomo, and no one else in the dozens of hate filled Democrat public rants about Trump, used the words "peacefully and patriotically".
Thankfully, Trump has shown no intention of bailing out any of the capitol insurrectionists. Do you think any of those insurrectionists could have been inspired by Kamala Harris's contributing to the bailing out of criminal rioters? This report is from 8-17-20, plenty of time for the preparations of the nutcases of January 6th.
Trump Slams Kamala Harris for Bailing Out Rioters, Looters – PJ Media
The defense likely banked on the fact that the Republicans would be split enough that the prosecution would fall short of the 2/3 majority needed. The defense gambled well.
Gambled? What did they gamble on? They showed facts, no gambling there that I could see.
The Orange Menace may resurface in 4 years, but hopefully the voting public will see the light and the fact that they are responsible for choosing better (than him)
The voting public has yet to see what they're in for, for the next 4 years. There are thousands of un-educated, non-English speaking central Americans marching towards the U.S/Mexican border right now, not much reporting about it in the news however. I watch ABC World News Tonight most evenings, almost no time spent on the closure of the Keystone pipeline. Biden is now getting started on gun control, again, not much reporting. So many people are going to be caught off guard about the upcoming disasters, because the news media constantly covers things up that aren't favorable to Democrats.
So the world sees us as a weakened aging empire that is more partisan now than ever before.
That's true, and our enemies always seem to side with Democrats.
Unity or at the very least a consensus will require a lot of hard work, education, and ability to see the Bigger Picture.
The biggest problem is fake news, lying by omission. Ever since the jaw dropping cover up of the NY Post Hunter Biden story, I think correcting lying by omission by the Democrat controlled news media is our biggest piece of hard work.

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marc9000
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Message 143 of 438 (884391)
02-14-2021 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by LamarkNewAge
02-14-2021 10:20 PM


Re: Critical thinking warning: Don't let politicians conflate protesting with violence.
Why should we have a problem with people dropping in here, when we dropped bombs there?
Most Trump voters, both from this past November, and November of 2016, are concerned with illegal immigration of today, not events of 1954.
Best to keep policy out of this discussion. I have heard enough crap from the others, here, to know that they will gladly post bomb a bunch of policy babble.
I was addressing this comment of Phat's;
quote:
The Orange Menace may resurface in 4 years, but hopefully the voting public will see the light and the fact that they are responsible for choosing better (than him)
With a mediocre economy at best, with $4 per gallon gasoline, an uncontrollable mess at our southern border, and a non-existent second amendment, all within the next 4, or even 2, years, the voting public just might form a whole new opinion of the orange man, and how things were during HIS presidency.
There will, then, be no more good discussions here.
As there are now, with practically no moderates or conservatives here?

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marc9000
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Message 146 of 438 (884395)
02-15-2021 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by LamarkNewAge
02-14-2021 11:21 PM


Re: Critical thinking warning: Don't let politicians conflate protesting with violence.
Another single thread, at least, for these 3 policy discussions, is called for.
Hmmm, not sure what the penalty is here for impersonating a moderator. Probably varies depending on if the offender is a liberal or conservative.

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marc9000
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Message 240 of 438 (909441)
04-03-2023 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by Percy
04-03-2023 9:08 AM


Re: It's More Than Just Dominion
And some mainstream media lies;
quote:
No. 1 is the oldest and biggest: Trump colluded with Russia to win in 2016 and might be a Russian agent. That scam involved crooked FBI agents and led to the appointment of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who took two years to conclude there was no evidence to back the charge.
Yet the probe had enormous impact, with the drumbeat of anonymous leaks hampering the Trump agenda and helping Democrats take the House in 2018. ]
Remember Lie No. 2, the “Muslim ban” that wasn’t? Or No. 3, the mantra that the 2017 tax cuts were only for the “rich” despite studies showing 80 percent of the population benefitted?
How about the “kids in cages” firestorm, complete with gripping photographs of migrant children in metal containers?
That was Lie No. 4 and the hottest story going, with Democrats such as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez rushing to the border with photogenic outrage. They vanished when it was revealed the Obama-Biden administration built the cages and the heart-wrenching photos were from 2014.
Apologies, corrections and retractions came in bunches, right? You must be kidding. Big media and big tech are too big to admit error.
Even now, with historic surges of young people at the border, the press doesn’t complain about Biden banning their cameras. That’s not journalism — it’s complicity.
Lie No. 5 was the Ukraine impeachment of Trump, a creative fiction based on a complaint from an anonymous member of the swamp who never testified. But others did to say the president, in trying to get information on Biden family corruption in Ukraine, was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Over and over again, they are the boy who cried wolf. It’s getting so where it’s safer to assume what the media insists is absolutely true probably isn’t.
Just as liberals have become illiberal, media have become more focused on suppressing the truth than revealing it.
Take Hunter Biden’s laptop, which is No. 6 on my Top Ten, although it rivals Russia, Russia, Russia in importance. When The Post first showed how the contents revealed his shady foreign business deals and how his father helped him, it was not unreasonable for the Times, Washington Post and others to hold off until they could confirm the explosive information late in the campaign.
The role Rudy Giuliani played in getting the material to The Post, which the paper disclosed, created additional concern because Giuliani was Trump’s lawyer.
So there were legitimate reasons for caution — up to a point. But the real motivation in avoiding the story soon became apparent.
The outlets that held their noses over the laptop had no trouble embracing the claim from Joe Biden’s campaign that the e-mails on it were “Russian disinformation.”
In what felt like a coordinated move, big tech instantly blocked The Post and other users from sharing them.
The final proof that media caution had morphed into coverup came when Tony Bobulinski emerged. A former partner of Hunter and Jim Biden, Joe’s brother, in a joint venture with a Chinese energy conglomerate, Bobulinski authenticated the critical e-mails because he had received them as CEO of the venture.
He also solved a riddle by saying the “big guy” slated to get a secret 10 percent stake was Joe Biden. Bobulinski told me he met with him in early 2017 and said Joe knew everything about the plan to introduce American mayors and governors to Chinese officials so the Chinese could buy US infrastructure.
All this was public information because of The Post, Fox News and a few others, yet most media cast doubts on the revelations. They were especially loathe to report anything supporting Joe Biden’s role, even though Bobulinski gave all his evidence to the FBI.
That cone of silence goes well beyond bias. That is Lie No. 7.
Finally, the 10th lie remains active, so the truth has not fully emerged.
The subject is ballot integrity, which the left demonizes as improper voter suppression. Joe Biden made the astonishing claim that demands for photo identification are the new Jim Crow.
Naturally, his claim was magnified by the media, with CNN creating a logo declaring “Voting Rights Under Attack.” Even the normally sober Pew Trusts said, “Republican Wave of Voting Restrictions Swells.”
One count had 361 bills introduced in 47 states, and Wikipedia labels all of them attempts to restrict voting access. Craven corporate leaders piled on.
Never mind that polls show overwhelming support for voter ID laws, with a March survey finding 69 percent of black voters and 75 percent of all respondents favor such measures.
The finding provides hope and reminds us there are antidotes to a corrupt press: Facts, facts and more facts. Or, as the late economist Herb Stein put it, “If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.”
Media lies are no exception.
My Top 10 media lies: Goodwin
Fox News came on the scene in 1996, as a welcome balance to liberal bias in the news. It would have been nice if the mainstream media would have taken note, and corrected most or all of their bias, and watched Fox News fade away from public interest in a few years. Instead they doubled down, they omit far more unfriendly news to Democrats today than ever before. Fox News has plenty of material, and continue to have good ratings.
With 2.5 Million Viewers, Fox News Channel’s ‘Gutfeld!’ Beats Every Show In Late Night TV

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marc9000
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From: Ky U.S.
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Message 243 of 438 (909502)
04-04-2023 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Percy
04-04-2023 8:52 AM


Re: It's More Than Just Dominion
I wrote everything I said in Message 239.
Yes, I noticed. Most all bare assertions with no supporting evidence.
From the Forum Guidelines:
Here we go again. Message 236 is a bare link with none of your words. I could easily load this message up with examples of Forum Rule #10 being shattered by your helpers.
When you play the forum rule card while breaking those rules yourself, it tells me that I probably need to vacate for awhile like I've wisely done a few times in the past. I could be close to a banning, and this terrifies me greatly.

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marc9000
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Message 310 of 438 (914057)
12-22-2023 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 309 by Percy
12-22-2023 9:05 AM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
Researchers who follow such things say that online violent rhetoric is up after the Colorado Supreme Court ruled that Donald Trump cannot be on the Republican primary ballot in that state (Colorado Trump ruling leads to rise in violent online rhetoric : NPR). The personal information of members of the Colorado Supreme Court have been posted.

Apparently each development seen as negative or detrimental for Trump results in an uptick of such rhetoric. The most extreme posts have been on Gab, Truth Social and Patriots.win, but some have been on X.
And you're surprised? Do you believe this action by those 4 unelected judges is a victory for democracy? Is the term "democracy" being re-defined?

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marc9000
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Message 313 of 438 (914060)
12-22-2023 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 311 by Theodoric
12-22-2023 11:22 AM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
Do you understand how our federal and state governments work? Have you read the US and Colorado Constitutions work?
Yes, they are very complex, and I understand how tyrants can twist and distort them to destroy democracy. Do you understand what democracy is?
Only one of the Justices are unelected and she will have to stand for election this next year.
Don't listen to right wing media. They lie.
The left wing media lies, often by omission. There's a lot going on that too many people don't know about.

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marc9000
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Message 316 of 438 (914063)
12-22-2023 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 312 by AZPaul3
12-22-2023 11:37 AM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
We do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic where the rule of law dominates not the rule of emotions.
Everyone knows that. But the Democrats sure talk about it a lot when it suits them, like their never ending efforts to get rid of the electoral college. They just don't like the subject of democracy brought up when it doesn't suit them.

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marc9000
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Message 317 of 438 (914064)
12-22-2023 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Theodoric
12-22-2023 11:46 AM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
So you are ok with spreading lies and spouting unsupported bullshit? The justices are not unelected.
No they are appointed, and all of the Colorado ones were appointed by Democrat governors. They do have to have retainment elections. A lot easier than winning an election initially.

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marc9000
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Message 324 of 438 (914071)
12-22-2023 7:47 PM
Reply to: Message 319 by AZPaul3
12-22-2023 12:02 PM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
You don't like the law? In a nation of law you change it. You don't violently rebel and demand your own way.
Like the BLM riots of May and June of 2020? Far more people killed, far more money in damage than January 6th. Pretty well forgotten now, it got about .000001% of the mainstream media news coverage than does January 6th.

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marc9000
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Message 325 of 438 (914072)
12-22-2023 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 321 by Theodoric
12-22-2023 12:55 PM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
Theocoric writes:
The justices are not unelected.
marc9000 writes:
No they are appointed, and all of the Colorado ones were appointed by Democrat governors. They do have to have retainment elections. A lot easier than winning an election initially.
They are elected. You are wrong.
https://www.nbcnews.com/...rimary-ballot-colorado-rcna130583
quote:
Justices on the high court are appointed by the governor, and the current slate of justices were all appointed by Democratic governors in the largely blue state, which Joe Biden won by almost 14 points in 2020.

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marc9000
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Message 326 of 438 (914073)
12-22-2023 8:20 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Percy
12-22-2023 5:39 PM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
marc9000 writes:
Do you believe this action by those 4 unelected judges is a victory for democracy? Is the term "democracy" being re-defined?

As has already been explained, supreme court justices in Colorado are appointed to the bench for a 2-year period, after which they have to face a retainment election...
Who explained it? Theodoric?
but it sounds like you believe that appointed judges are undemocratic.
They are when they try to interfere with a presidential election! Convicting someone of a crime that he hasn't even been charged with, let alone convicted of by any court of law.
The reality is that there are both red and blue states that appoint their supreme court justices. Here's a table of how judges in each state become seated on the supreme court sorted by method. The "tnc" in "Governor appoints tnc" stands for "through nominating commission":
I understand all of that. It just seems quite strange that the recent battle cry from many Democrats is that "Trump wants to destroy democracy!!!!", and then they do this unprecedented court ruling that destroys democracy. It's true that not all Democrats did that, only four activist ones, but they are getting a lot of cheers throughout the Democrat base. Cheers for a thwarting of Democracy.
You might want to reconsider your criteria for what constitutes a democracy.
And Democrats might want to reconsider accusing Trump of wanting to destroy democracy, then TURNING RIGHT AROUND and cheering when one of their own destroys democracy.
The good thing is, two can play this game. Actually more than two, if the Colorado ruling holds up, four states so far are considering removing Biden from the ballot for allowing a hostile invasion at the southern border.
https://abc3340.com/...ry-mcgarr-r-pima-co-donald-trump-2024
quote:
Pennsylvania state Rep. Aaron Bernstine, R-Lawrence, Georgia state Rep. Charlice Byrd, R-Woodstock and Arizona State Rep. Cory McGarr, R-Pima Co., are working together to exclude Biden from their general elections in November.
Also Texas;
Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick floats taking Biden off state ballot after Colorado Trump ruling
quote:
Shortly after the Colorado Supreme Court issued its bombshell ruling that Donald Trump is disqualified from the state’s GOP primary ballot, Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick suggested doing the same to President Joe Biden over immigration.
On Tuesday night, Patrick told Fox News host Laura Ingraham: “Seeing what happened in Colorado tonight, Laura, makes me think — except we believe in democracy in Texas — maybe we should take Joe Biden off the ballot in Texas for allowing 8 million people to cross the border since he’s been president, disrupting our state far more than anything anyone else has done in recent history.”
I really hope the SCOTUS reigns in the arrogant Colorado court, before this all gets out of hand, and it becomes 1860 all over again.

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marc9000
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Message 327 of 438 (914074)
12-22-2023 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 323 by Percy
12-22-2023 6:02 PM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
marc9000 writes:
No they are appointed, and all of the Colorado ones were appointed by Democrat governors.

And all of the Florida supreme court justices were appointed by Republican governors.
But those Florida appointed ones haven't tried to stop Florida voters from voting for the presidential candidate of their choice, have they?
Your claim has no rational basis. Whatever criteria you think up for judging a governmental branch or body undemocratic will be true of both political parties when considered across all the states. Gerrymandering? Both parties do it. Appointing judges of their own party to the courts? Both parties do it. Passing legislation favorable to supporters? Both parties do it. Organizing slates of fake electors? Both parties...oh wait, not that one. Only Republicans do that.
Telling voters they can't vote for the presidential candidate of their choice, both parties.....oh wait, not that one. Only Democrats do that. SO FAR. "We must fight back".

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Message 328 of 438 (914075)
12-22-2023 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 318 by AZPaul3
12-22-2023 11:57 AM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
Do you know who your state rep Cory McGarr is? Will you calmly accept it as the rule of law if he stops you from voting for Biden in 2024?

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marc9000
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Message 342 of 438 (914110)
12-26-2023 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by Theodoric
12-22-2023 9:18 PM


Re: Trump Support Tends Toward the Violent and Undemocratic
All 4 that voted in the majority have won election to retain their seats.
Not an actual election against an opposing candidate, just a "yes or no" vote. Very little similarity. They were initially appointed.
quote:
The justices serve for an initial two years – and then Colorado voters decide on a yes-or-no ballot whether to keep them for a subsequent 10-year term, according to state law. This is different from some states, where they run head-to-head against an opposing judicial candidate.
Fact check: Are Colorado Supreme Court justices ‘unelected,’ as GOP has claimed? | CNN Politics.
Why yes, CNN, they are. Thank you.

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